FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[MileHigh]

Chess:

My interpretation of the Rossi quote is that he has private investment.  So you can feel free to agree or disagree with me.  He is not a wealthy man from what we are led to believe, so he has to be getting money from somewhere, don't you think?

For the whole power plant issue, as far as I am concerned Rossi is the one that is not credible, or if you want to ratchet up the rhetoric, he is spreading disinformation.

Andrea Rossi: We are already developing 1 MW plants, and it will be easy to link these plants together to make larger power plants. Due to the compact scale, and efficient energy production process, an E-Cat power plant will be much smaller than its fossil fuel or nuclear equivalent.

That sounds like a person that is just winging it and making up an answer on the spot.  He thinks he needs to have an answer for everything because his perception is that will bolster his credibility.

Andrea Rossi: The 1MW units can be assembled at a reduced size of 10ft x 8ft x 8ft, and can then be stacked in series or parallel to produce the necessary power. It will cost 1,000 $/KW.

So what are we looking at here?  2000 10ft x 8ft x 8 ft power cubes and all of the wiring and piping to support it.  2000 pumps to maintain, 2000 circuit breakers, blah blah blah.

It doesn't make any sense at all.

What makes sense is if the LENR technology is proven to work is to make commercial-sized reactors just like you have giant boilers or giant turbines to produce commercial power.  The power companies can license the technology from Rossi and then invest the massive amounts of money needed to develop power plants in the 2000 MW and larger class.

Stop playing your "disinformation" card all the time.  One megawatt is a drop in the bucket with respect to commercial power production and "throwing 2000 Rossi boxes at the problem" does not sound like a viable solution to me in any way, shape, or form.

Rossi is only human and his words can be debated.

MileHigh

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Title of this thread was made for a reason- OCTOBER, but no year mentioned.....

Regards,
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[Gwandau]

MileHigh,

allow me to adress you again, since you seem to have regained a reasonable attitude towards your fellow OU-members in this thread.

I don't know if I'm right, but I have a feeling your reason for suspicion is due to the very specific situation Andrea Rossi have placed himself in.

First of all, we have to keep in mind that Rossi is just a simple engineer who finally hit gold in his many years of experimenting in the wake of Fleischman and Pons.
He has a history of being subjected to great injustice effected by his former enemies, some of them at that time even part of the Italian government,
which makes him extremely cautious, especially after being "run over" once again, this time by Defkalion, who he believed to be thrustworthy companions.

Thus he won't give away any clues whatsoever that might disclose his E-cat concept, which still today probably makes him the only person in the Leonardo Corp. who know the whole secret behind the E-cat.

Because of this choice of his, he does not have the scientific effectiveness of any real advanced physiscists to aid him on the product development, which makes any progress quite impossible of the scale and magnitude you are suggesting as being the only feasable alternative for a innovation like this.

This is a deliberate choice by Andrea Rossi, who certainly know he is going to be outrun by the giants shortly after his product becomes available on the market.
He has himself said that after entering the open market with the E-cats, the competitors will be just as easy to avoid as trying to stay dry with an umbrella in the Niagara Falls.

He wants his fair share of this but not at the price of being part of the conservative powers that just want to incorporate this innovation into their existing power structure.

Believe it or not, but Andrea Rossi is an emphatic being who cares a lot for the simple working class heroes. He has friends here in Sweden, and I mean real friends who know him well.

I know his course of actions will inflict suspicions in the minds of many, but he has as I explained above a resaon for keeping the scale within the 10KW E-cat, since this is the only way he know how to technically handle this innovation.

Just wait till the E-cat enters the market. Then you will soon have all those big scale LENR systems you are talking about, replacing the nuclear heaters at the power plants and so on, and some well funded scientific team will patent the very LENR process behind it that Andrea Rossi never was able to nail into exact nuclear physics concepts.

Then Andrea Rossi will finally get thrown out of business and some nuclear scientist with high academic credenials will publish his report and get the Nobel price.
I understand the choice taken by Andrea Rossi, but I don't share it. If I was in  his position, I would have gone open source, just like the aim of this forum.

This world is a sorrowful place with nasty guys at the top making the rules, securing the old power structure so money keeps flowing upwards and the masses are kept conditioned.

Gwandau

[chessnyt]

Chess:


My interpretation of the Rossi quote is that he has private investment.

"We do not want the savings of families in our enterprise now. Our enterprise is still risky, for many reasons. So we can accept investments from big organizations, that can invest a small amount... Some hedge funds of their finances, and can risk it, in a way that if something goes wrong, no body is going to cry. And no body is going to be damaged, really. Do you understand?"


Rossi clearly states that it is indeed PRIVATE FUNDS but not from individuals such as you and I.  He is accepting HEDGE FUNDS and you should google search this for yourself so you know what they are.  I have not the time nor space to take you to school again so educate yourself as to what HEDGE FUNDS are.


Aside from not taking investments from the likes of you nor I, he is not accepting ANY funding from his own government or the U.S. (like the hot fusion researchers do) because he already has a useful product that people will buy and fund him through the purchase of his products, but I think you already knew this but you had to save face for the false innuendos.

He is not a wealthy man from what we are led to believe, so he has to be getting money from somewhere, don't you think?

He has already sold and delivered one 1mw unit and several others are under construction.  In addition, he has the hedge funds from large organizations to add to that.  He's certainly not poor like you are pretending he is here. 

For the whole power plant issue, as far as I am concerned Rossi is the one that is not credible, or if you want to ratchet up the rhetoric, he is spreading disinformation.

I've already caught you in several huge lies already so it is you who have the credibility problem here.  And if anybody wants to see these lies to judge for themselves, they can read this thread and view all of them in their entirety.  I doubt that this will be necessary because I think it is already clear to the majority here who you are and what your purpose of being here is.


Andrea Rossi: We are already developing 1 MW plants, and it will be easy to link these plants together to make larger power plants. Due to the compact scale, and efficient energy production process, an E-Cat power plant will be much smaller than its fossil fuel or nuclear equivalent.

Andrea Rossi: The 1MW units can be assembled at a reduced size of 10ft x 8ft x 8ft, and can then be stacked in series or parallel to produce the necessary power. It will cost 1,000 $/KW.

So what are we looking at here?  2000 10ft x 8ft x 8 ft power cubes and all of the wiring and piping to support it.  2000 pumps to maintain, 2000 circuit breakers, blah blah blah.


It doesn't make any sense at all.

It makes perfect sense.  He has already made small home units and he has already made large 1mw industrial sized units so it stands to reason that Rossi has no problem scaling up his technology from small to large units.  He will be selling the larger units at $1,000 dollars per KW.  This also makes sense so that the larger the unit, the higher the cost.

Rossi is only human and his words can be debated.


MileHigh

Don't forget that you are only human too and you will be debated and exposed.

Stop playing your "disinformation" card all the time.  One megawatt is a drop in the bucket with respect to commercial power production and "throwing 2000 Rossi boxes at the problem" does not sound like a viable solution to me in any way, shape, or form.

It's not a card.  It's a pattern and everyone here can verify it for themselves by reading your past postings in this thread.  The truth is way more fun and powerful.




Chess

[MileHigh]

Chess:

Your posting is almost comical.  Exposed as what?  A Double-Naught spy?  lol

Making a power plant out of 2000 E-Cats stacked like some kind of Lego block set does not make any sense at all.  If you could just use your imagination you should be able to see that.

Rossi clearly states that it is indeed PRIVATE FUNDS but not from individuals such as you and I.  He is accepting HEDGE FUNDS and you should google search this for yourself so you know what they are.  I have not the time nor space to take you to school again so educate yourself as to what HEDGE FUNDS are.

When you talk like that you make an ass of yourself.

Just come down to Earth and speak like a normal human being.   

MileHigh