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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

fuzzytomcat

Quote from: energy1234hope on May 31, 2012, 09:08:40 AM
If you don't agree with chess  go find another thread to annoy and leave this one alone. The reason for the disagreement with  Dick Smith’s $1m challenge to Defkalion ended when the Australian businessman pulled out. Citing Defkalion’s insistence on secrecy as a deal killer, Smith will watch the outcome of the forthcoming Hyperion tests before deciding what to do next. they are the facts so go away trolls you know who you are.

Gee ....Whizz ....   ::)

I see Rosemary has signed in with one of her other "screen names" to agree with herself again, further evidence of her being a "SUPER SHILL" . This is a common practice to deceive the members and public with reasons or allegations that are unproven and without references or links where the information conveyed came from with nothing but wood salad spoken.  ;)

This is Rosemary's investment in "ROSSI" for those unaware ....  ???

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Dear Reader,

Today is a red letter day. I have finally managed to make contact with Rossi. Here's the letter that I wrote subsequent to sending him those two papers of ours.

What a pleasure. Hopefully we'll hear more from him in due course.

Kindest as ever,
Rosemary

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Dear Andrea,

This is â€" very broadly â€" the synopsis.

The thesis argues that magnetic fields are a primary force and that all the forces are the effects from varying dimensional structures of these magnetic fields. The fields themselves are structured from magnetic dipoles that naturally organise into ‘closed strings’. The fields are dynamic and they orbit at a velocity of 2C.

These fields come in three dimensions. So, a 1 dimensional field (a binding field) is responsible for the weak nuclear interaction including the electromagnetic and the galvanic processes. 2 dimensional fields, (having length and breadth) are responsible for the strong nuclear force. And finally, 3 dimensional fields (having length, breadth and depth) is the torus, which is associated with a complete magnetic field. This is responsible for gravity.

Where it deviates from the standard model is only in this. It proposes that magnetic fields comprise this non-standard dipole that has a velocity that exceeds light speed. It also proposes that a magnetic field is a primary force underpinning all the known forces. In all other respects it conforms ENTIRELY to the standard model. It would explain the existence and operation of the forces â€" and it would account for the Casimir effect. and it would be precisely related to Plank’s constant. Because â€" in a field â€" they orbit at velocities that exceed light speed, then light cannot find these particles. Therefore they remain ‘dark’ â€" outside our abilities to detect it. Effectively they operate in a dimension of time that exceeds our own abilities to measure it. Therefore it relates precisely to the ‘dark’ energy that has been measured by our astrophysicists.

As this relates to your own system, the proposal is that these fields are responsible for binding coalesced matter. Read the appendix to the second part of that two-part paper. In a chaotic state which is when the particle is NOT in an orbital field formation â€" then the particles become as hot and as big and as slow as they were previously cold and small and fast. But in their ‘hot’ state, they are no longer ‘binding’ that coalesced material. Therefore the bound condition becomes compromised. This would enable the contamination of anything within range of those chaotic particles. For example, should copper be proximate â€" then the copper atoms would decouple from their coalesced condition and loosen from the structure.

The thing is this. If there is an intrinsic molecular imbalance which occurs when more binding fields are available than required to ‘bind’ that material - then the condition of chaos can be perpetuated to become self sustaining. Our test 3 of the 1st part of that paper refers. As, indeed, do the results in your own experimental evidence. Then the requirement is to continually apply more material to reduce the rate of that interaction which, otherwise, will become catastrophically hot. We both applied water. You did this to much greater force and effect. LOL

But here’s the thing Andrea. We have only defined a magnetic field as being ‘structured’ from a magnetic dipole. I’ve presumed to call this a ‘zipon’ because it sort of relates to a required function to ‘zip’ on and off atoms â€" or to ‘zip’ in and out of a field condition. And then it links to the thing that it IS, which is related to ‘zero point’ energy. But call it what you will. The minute you apply a particle to the magnetic field â€" then all those unanswered questions of our Greats â€" fall into place. It explains the existence of that ‘other’ dimension â€" which is required to explain many paradoxes including questions of ‘locality’. It also marries those diverse branches of physics including quantum and classical â€" dark forces and string theories. And it is ONLY based on an extension to Faraday’s Lines of Force. It is better explained in the appendix to our second paper.

Incidentally â€" we have been able to reconcile the mass/size ratio of the proton to the electron â€" using this field. And this was managed, through the simple means of analysing stable particles as composites of these fundamental magnetic dipoles. And, more to the point â€" it localises that ‘dark energy’ that our astrophysicists require. I suspect that they may be pleased to hear of this â€" as it explains so much.

But most significantly â€" this explanation does NOT deviate â€" in any way â€" from the standard model. It’s only an extension. And the minute you apply this ‘extension’ then, as mentioned, everything sort of falls into place.

Let me know if you want to discuss this further.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary


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As you all can see, Rosemary isn't here at OU with several screen names spouting on her "soap box" for the device other than to attach her "THESIS" to it ... plain and simple.

FTC
;)

MileHigh

Rosemary:

QuoteMileHigh - you're asking us to believe that Rossi is investing huge chapters of his money and his life into some kind of hoax that is perpetrated for no better reason than to encourage the uncritical public to 'run around with glazed eyes'?  That's an interesting proposal - if somewhat bereft of logic.  But that has to be the whole of your argument.  Because clearly he is NOT conning us out of money on a pre-sales hoax - there can be no other reasonable explanation.

I don't know what Rossi's motivations are.  But look at the example of Steorn.  It was a $20M "make work" project so a bunch of dudes cold drink beer, play with magnets, and surf the net.  They produced zero after eight years.  It was just an exercise in creative cash burning.  So there are concrete examples of how to fritter away investor cash and "keep working."

QuoteHow strange that you would think that anyone at all could buy into this as a motive.  In any event - Chess and Gwandau have both covered this point before.  And now the arguments are just getting repetitive.  IF Rossi was asking for money from an unsuspecting pubic - PRIOR to the delivery of his E-Cat - then ONLY could you spin this spin.  As it is - he's deferring all payment until delivery.

Nobody knows how much investment money Rossi has taken in or where it is going.  That's the real issue right now.  Nobody knows if or when a home E-Cat will be sold and delivered to a customer.  There will be some bruised egos around here if on December 31, 2013 not a single home E-Cat has been shipped to a customer.  Of course we can always move the goal posts, can't we?

QuoteI asked this before.  Where in the proud history of your membership on this forum have you EVER supported over unity evidence?  There's been much on offer.  But you've ACCEPTED NOTHING MileHigh.  That most certainly means - at its least - that you're posting at the wrong address.

Kiss my ass Rosemary.  What I say or do is none of your business and I will not submit to any Apartheid free energy litmus test of your making.  I just participate in a few threads that I am interested in.  I don't have glazed eyes and if I saw something that I thought was genuine I would say so.  Up to now I have not seen any evidence of something genuine.

MileHigh

lumen

MileHigh:
Are you talking only the E-cat not making delivery, or any of the other four companies working on the same type cold fusion technology also?


tinu

 @Rosemary,

Your words are wonderful but still void of substance, still propaganda.
Show me the real device please.

If you have hard facts, please share. Otherwise I’m not interested and actually after 86 pages and many months I’m quite irritated because of endlessly posts of yours that want to be grandiose but are just empty. Of course you are free to post regardless of my irritation. One question arises, however: why do you do it?! It looks like you are either paid by someone to do it or you have a real passion to waste our time. Not only that but you offend friends and valuable members! Stop that now; there is a limit for everything but you’ve trespassed it grossly.

Now, onto the subject itself:
I’ve been overloading H into Ni like crazy since January so I know a couple of things about it…
I’ve been trying to replicate Piantelli’s work with Ni, Zn, Co and few other metals but no success. In fact, one of his very first studies on OU is containing evidences of non OU by itself but that aspect is less known… I’ve been giving him a try, nonetheless.
Academia has got only minor results that, although encouraging and exciting, might prove by the end to be mere peculiarities. Nobody knows yet about the final outcome so you can not be sure it will be a success, right? Anyway, none claimed results of Rossi’s magnitude ever. Or, if you like, Blacklight claimed it in theory but it remained an unproven claim. Also, in terms of other fancy claims, why don’t you take a trip to Hungary â€" EBM/gammamanager to buy one of their “free energy” machine? They advertise for several years now... “We are routinely producing with our EBM Power Plants several kilowatts well over unity without any pollution and emissions whatsoever!” http://www.gammamanager.com

Point is… there is no Rossi’s evidence but unsubstantiated claims.
If one considers the myriad of issues with steam quantity and quality, peristaltic pump/ water flow rates, stored thermal energy, etc. etc. it’s getting right to the edge of false claims. He looks now much worse that the above two examples.

So, considering the above and many more, what are you talking about in 86pages?! If you are so passionate, go get a pile of Ni powder or a chunk of Ni, make heat out of it and only then enlighten us. Or go and write to Rossi, visit him and come back with hard evidences so clear that nobody can deny them and consequently we can fully support his cause. Or simply let the voice down because you may be wrong and may want saving face or what’s left of it…

Cheers,
Oh, tinu is a name and therefore t is a capital letter, right Rose?
Tinu

Gwandau

Quote from: tinu on May 31, 2012, 05:27:10 PM
...Blacklight claimed it in theory but it remained an unproven claim.

Tinu,

BlackLight Hydrino reactors are today fully validated by several third party scientific institutions and organizations.

Below is a link covering all of the validation reports published.
http://www.blacklightpower.com/technology/validation-reports/

Their patents are probably in the near future going to interfere with the E-cat production by Andrea Rossi, since they adress
the physics behind LENR in a perfectly legimitate scientific context.

High efficient LENR processes are mushrooming all over the planet right now, so I really don't understand how on earth anyone still
find it even feasible to maintain a sceptic point of view behind an attitude of fair obectiveness.

How could you even state such things about BlackLight without checking out what's going on?
Don't you understand that those type of posts are creating an unfounded sceptisism in anyone reading this.

Please get updated, high effícient LENR is here to stay.

Gwandau