FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[chessnyt]

@Everyone:
When "60 Minutes" was preparing for an updated special in which cold fusion would again take center stage, they picked their scientific experts with great care.  After all, they were only interested in the truth even if that truth included a complete debunking of the technology.

They carefully selected Dr. Robert Duncan as an independent scientist (with no axe to grind either way) "to look at some cold fusion claims. Duncan was selected on the recommendation of the American Physical Society because he was a recognized expert on measuring energy. After visiting an Israeli company, Energetics Technologies, and examining their cold fusion experimental results, Duncan came away convinced that anomalous excess heat was quite real."

Dr. Duncan also explained the ramifications of his honest efforts concerning the latest "60 Minutes" piece on cold fusion:

Duncan remarks that he has faced criticism for his position on cold fusion and talks about one angry Ivy League professor who chastised him for being involved in the 60 Minutes story. Duncan states his position that, "the scientific method  is a wonderful thing, in my opinion it’s time to stop growling at each other from separate sides of this issue and apply the scientific method to figure out what’s going on."

The full article can be found here:
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/06/robert-duncan-on-cold-fusion-and-the-scientific-method/


Regards,

Chess

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Loner NOTA BENE

There is NO explanation of cold fusion or LENR within the standard model.  You really need to get your head around this fact.

Regards
Rosemary

[chessnyt]

Chess, that is excellent.  I wanted to comment on some less recent posts for a moment.

Just as a stupid reminder, we all should remember that "Overunity" operation of a device is already a proven fact.

NOT a free energy device, as that applies to any hydroelectric plant, as use of falling water doesn't "Cost" anything.  This is one reference for the difference between "Free" energy and Overunity.  (I've posted a whole paper on that already, so I won't say more.  Agree or disagree as you will.)

For those who don't remember, or wish to forget, I am referencing the paper published on the conversion of an electric field from high voltage into actual physical motion with no current draw.  Very little power generated, as in nowhere near enough to claim any "Prize" that might be available, but enough to prove the concept.  They were VERY careful to prevent any ion flow and accounted for leakage, etc.  This paper is still around, of course.

IMHO, that ends the conversation on Overunity.  It DOES exist.  Producing a useful amount of power, even enough to light an LED, has not been publicly announced that I know of, but having the knowledge that there MUST be a method for increasing this effect should certainly offer some incentive.

I guess this is another of those little items that no one cares about, as it's just information, not a useful device.  For me, the search for knowledge is priority one, so I guess it means more to me than some.  Oh well.

A least I can assume one thing as straight "Data".  An LENR or "Cold Fusion" device (Not the same thing, by the way...) may be easily considered a free energy device, at this time, but IS NOT an overunity device.  I'm sure some will disagree, but they are just using a different definition for "Free Energy".  If I were to release a working TPU device, then an LENR device would not even be a "Free" energy device anymore.  Saying more would be redundant.

(For reference, the link to this paper is on this forum, though I can't remember where.  I offered to post another copy a year or two ago, but got no takers.  I may still have a copy, but I would have to recover it from archive as I only have 2TB of on-line data space available and my energy library is well over 10 times that.  OK, I'm a data pack-rat, and save everything, or I used to.  Have no time for such these days.  After seeing a magnetic field plot, posted on another thread, showing large propagation without large power, and waiting for ANYONE to make a comment on it, I decided that I am too far "Out there" for most.  Gwandau, I do understand and long ago accepted and proved some of what you said.  I'm too chicken to specify completely, especially on a public forum.)

@Loner:
Personally, I am pushing for LENR technology for three major reasons and others that are a little less significant.

1. It is imperative to bring in a more affordable energy source to stabilize the economy and prevent unpredictable spikes that could lead to another economic collapse.

2. We need an energy source which is clean and environmentally friendly to prevent another Gulf Oil Spill, nuclear melt down and unhealthful air quality conditions (smog reduction).

3. Once mainstream society has accepted the truth about LENR technology, then other sources of energy will be explored and introduced without the harsh criticisms and stigmatisms that LENR researchers have had to endure. 

These are my main reasons to make sure that this technology is not passed up as it is viable today to at least heat our homes and water.  Tomorrow, it holds the potential to completely remove us from the grid.  In a few year's time, it could easily power our transportation as well.

I agree that other solutions are out there, but unless the most viable one is introduced to the people now, the others will surely never make it beyond their infancy to fruition.


Best Regards,

Chess

[firlight]

Loner NOTA BENE

There is NO explanation of cold fusion or LENR within the standard model.  You really need to get your head around this fact.

Regards
Rosemary

Rosemary
                 Its the Cracks that let the Light in.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120618111823.htm

Dave 

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Rose, Could you possibly show me anywhere that I stated that LENR COULD be modeled by the standard model, in it's current form?

If I did, that would be stupid of me, because I know of NO-ONE who can exactly describe the workings of such a device.  Can You?

If you cannot factually describe the operation, you cannot say for a fact that it is or isn't. right?

I certainly would never knowingly make such a rash assumption.

Please tell me how I mistakenly got that insinuation to you, as that is against all I know and do, to make such a statement.  (Like I really know what goes on in an LENR device.  I don't, and will NOT make such assumptions at this time.)

Actually Loner, what I'm referring  to is the fact that any over unity device is also potentially 'free energy'.  If you can exceed one then the potential exits for it to be exceeded infinitely.  And there is absolutely nothing within our standard physics that allows for this.  There's no subtle distinction between what's free and what's calculated to be over unity.  That is - until we've found an alternate source of energy.  And no-one has yet found that elusive 'source'.

Regards again
Rosemary