FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[Gwandau]

Chessnyt,

In the light of the 600 C e-cat, I am kind of losing interest in the low temperature home units which I have ordered,
since my reason for ordering four of them is due to the possibility to do some back engineering in order to create a controller
that allows for serially connected units enabling electricity generation, just like the 1MW unit, which is nothing but serially controlled
home units.

Thus it would be far more convenient if Andrea Rossi made single units of the high temperature version available for purchase
before the low temp unit launch.

So I would quite self evidently prefer one 600 C unit to four low temp ones, even if it would cost twice as much as 4 low temp units.
It's such a great improvement that I expect lots of people who have preordered home units to think just like me.




(This guy Sparks sounds drunk or something, he seems quite unable to understand the simple answer posted by Loner.
Either stupid drunk or being a new version of troll, spamming the thread by simply posting nonsense.
I think any further communication with Sparks just is wasting thread space.)

Gwandau

[MileHigh]

Gwandau:

I assume that you have not paid any money up-front for the four home units you ordered.  I recall that it's more of a mailing list that you registered on so your name is in the database.

Here is an important question for you:  What are you going to do with an E-Cat that generates 600 C steam?  It's a serious question.

Thanks,

MileHigh

[Gwandau]

MileHigh,

A 600 C unit would be comparable to any type of 600 C steam producing heat source.
It all depends on how you use the heat source, taking into consideration the parameters involved.

I myself have a 800 degree furnace that generates 90 C water to my home. There are no obstacles to
change my present system into a steam generator that drives an electric generator.
Same goes with the 600 degree e-cat.

I will use it for electricity generation, just as I stated.

Gwandau

[MileHigh]

Gwandau:

This is not my area of expertise in terms of the equipment and what's available and all that but I fear you are expressing a desire to do something without considering all of the issues and costs involved for electricity generation.

You would need a turbine + generator (may exist as a single unit) and a transmission, transformers, heat exchanger, pumps, who knows what.  If you can't modulate the power output of the E-Cat then you would need to sell power back to the grid, if that is even allowed where you live.  If you sell power back to the grid then you need sophisticated electronics to keep your power generation setup synchronous to the grid.  If you can't sell power back to the grid and you can't modulate the power output of the E-Cat then you have huge problem for disposing of the excess power.  That might mean that you have to get rid of it in the form of heat.  Your neighbours might not appreciate the "heat pollution."

I am not going to do the research but if we assume that it would be necessary to create your own local 10 Kw steam-driven power plant, and you only have industrial sources for components, then it might cost you between $50K and $100K USD above the cost of your E-Cat to create your own home power generation system.  If you are very wealthy and want to pursue it good luck.

Plan B would be to wait and see if an industrial ecosystem develops around the 600 C E-Cat and perhaps the costs might come down.

Just as a single separate stand alone thought experiment:  Think just about the turbine and the transmission and the generator.  If you assume that you are working with industrial-grade parts that will last for say 30 years, just those parts alone might cost $50K.

The only way for this technology to make it down to the "one in every home" ideal is for the cost to come down to some reasonable level.  If it's too costly it will never make it into the home.  That's why I think that medium and large-scale power plants are the right fit for this technology.

Just do the thought experiment for a second and remove yourself from the psychology of the free energy forums.  The average person does not want to have a nuclear reactor and steam turbine mini power plant in their house.  All that they want is cheap electricity.

MileHigh

[sparks]

  Please excuse me for posting without thouroughly researching the particular device in question.  I was under the impression that you need a proton donar in a fusion reaction.  I may have been mistaken in that the proton donar was going to come from a hydrogen molecule.  The present wattage consumed by human activities at present is close to a tetrawatt a second.  I have no idea how many protons you need to fuse to produce a tetrawatt second but I imagine it is considerable.