FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[sparks]

It doesn't necessarily have to rely on the consumption or depletion of the hydrogen (To think otherwise is not to 'Free your minds').  If you allow radioactivity to pass through a magnetic field you will get alpha, beta, and gamma rays. The first are helium nuclei, the second are electrons and the third are gamma rays which are similar to ultra rays in their electro-magnetic content. These three components of radioactivity are related.  Ultra or gamma rays, on passing close to helium nuclei, bring about a deformation of space (rearrangement of the protons) and give birth to electrons (internal conversion electrons & Auger electrons) until their wave energy is expended. Thus when gamma rays pass through an acid solution (boric acid) saturated with helium nuclei, the newly created electrons gyrate around the nuclei, but the acid prevents them from joining up with the nuclei, and they are collected on plates at the bottom of the apparatus. This provides an inexhaustible supply of energy which requires nothing more than a little acid solution and some helium nuclei.  This process also generates a direct energy conversion to electricity.


Gravock

   My idea is to use casimir cavitiy geometry to strip electrons from hydrogen neuclei or exclude them from entering the cavity.  The  protons while inside the cavity are excluded from zero-point oscillations that dictate the ground-state for all electrodynamic  systems.  The monatomic ion proton then drops to a super-cooled state.  Upon exiting the cavity the ionised monatomic hydrogen is "heated" by the vacuum fluctuations as the vacuum energy is converted into electron mass.  The hydrogen gas is then reconstitued down stream of the cavity for recycle.   The electron stripping device therefore sees an increased amount of negatively charged mass entering it's system.  The relaxation of the electron extraction system is used to do work outside the frame of reference the cavity filter is comprised of.
   The problem of course with the above system is the cavity construction itself.  The ecat relies heavily on the palladium crystal structure and PRECONDITIONING of the structure and dynamic oscillations of the structure to temporarily create a cavity small enough to exclude background radiation pressure and allow coloumb explosions to arise.  The high speed protons reaching local velocities of serveral million degrees.  This causes fusion in the nickel and voila binding energy expressed as various emwaves heats the reactor core.  Ponds and Fleishman were the first scientists to report this process and forced to jump the gun.  They were manipulated by the powers that be to stall LENR in it's tracks.  It didn't work obviously.  For goodness sakes you can make copper-nitrogen-oxygen-radioactive with 1/2lives in the minutes.  I have an ionizer I'm looking at right now ionizing air molecules and driving a passive collector which is constantly monitored to output any signal loss from the ionizer.  Tesla created zeropoint cavities by controlling the plasma growth fronts in the spark gap and latter on rectifier tubes. As the distance between the plasma approached the casimer cavity CONSTANT the plasma intruding into the cavity detached from the continous plasma field.  A portion of the plasma again accelerated  by casimier force right at each other.  The resulting collisions producing electro-magnetic radiation far in excess of the input energy needed to synthesize the plasma growth and intrusion into the cavity.  This disruptive discharge picked up by various rf current transducers better known as antennae.  Tesla often described the need to produce only a crack in the plasma to obtain his disruptive discharge. Moray produced a semiconductor and stratified the holes in the germanium crystal with electrostatic fields.  These holes were then caused to oscillate in tune with the vacuum oscillations.  The resultant expansion and contraction of the holes would be mirrored by quantom tunneling on the other side of the dielectric barrier.  The electron rich copper then transducing quantom tunneling effects into extremely high oscillations of the copper substrate.  He then employed standard frequency conversion devices to run electrical loads. The amount of similiarity amongst alternative energy devices is astounding.

[MileHigh]

Here is a message I posted to Hank Mills on PESN.  Hank is trying to arrange for an interview with Rossi.

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Hank, all of the interviews that I have seen with Rossi over the past few months have been pretty bad.  Simplistic infantile questions are posed to Rossi and he responds with short, simplistic and infantile replies.  If you are not able to pose technical questions then my advice to you is to bring someone along that can.

Example:  Questioner:  Mr. Rossi, is the 600 C output stable?   Rossi answer:  Yes it is stable.

That's a bullshit question and a bullshit answer.

You want real questions?   Ask him how the heat is produced.  i.e.; is it with gamma rays and a lead absorption jacket or by some other means?  Ask him what the volume of the reactor chamber is.   Once you get that ask him how the heat is extracted from the reactor chamber.  Is it done with water at high pressure or is there an intermediary step before the heat is transferred into the water.  If there is an intermediary step, then what is the intermediary step?  Ask him what the flow rate of the high-pressure water at 600 C is if that's the way it is done.

So, you have a small reactor chamber and you have to extract 10 kilowatts of power out of it.  You realize that that has to be done pretty fast because otherwise the heat energy will build up so fast that the reactor core might melt down in 1/2 second.  So, that implies that there is a quite sophisticated control system that has to continuously extract that heat.   That control system will typically be done by a microcontroller running software that gets inputs from flow rate sensors and temperature sensors and who knows what else.  The software for a control system like this has to run in real time, and it is a very challenging thing to do.  Extracting 10 kilowatts from the small reactor core continuously and ensuring that there isn't a meltdown is the most critical aspect of the entire E-Cat.   So you should ask Rossi about the control system and the sensors and the microcontroller and the software engineer that is working on the algorithm.

Beyond that, Hank, you should spend a couple of nights and read everything you can on oil-fired and coal-fired electrical generating stations that use high-pressure steam to generate electricity.   Spend hours and hours doing your homework so that you understand how these plants work so that you can apply this knowledge to the E-Cat, which is just a miniature generating station once you connect it up to a steam turbine and a generator.

Speaking of steam turbines, I read a quote from Rossi where he said his company would not be involved with the electrical generation.  He said that they would just provide the 600 C steam/high pressure water.   Ask Rossi if a 600 C E-Cat has ever been connected to a steam turbine.   Ask Rossi what manufacturer and model number of steam turbine and what manufacturer and model number of electrical generator.   Ask Rossi if anyone has done the full test setup:  E-Cat -> 10 Kilowatts of 600 C steam out -> turbine -> electrical generator -> 5-kilowatt electrical load.   The last component is the MOST IMPORTANT - you have to be driving a 5-kilowatt electrical load to prove it is real.  Far too often the load is left out of the picture.

For this electrical generating system, ask Rossi how they are disposing of the 5 kilowatts of waste heat.   Ask him if the steam runs in a closed loop and goes back to a condenser.

Now, Rossi may back off on most of these questions and state that none of this testing has been done.  But, does Rossi sound conversant with respect to one of these systems?  Has he been talking to steam turbine suppliers and generator suppliers?   Has somebody been shopping around for a 5-kilowatt load bank to do the real-world testing?

Now Hank, are you getting a sense of the types of questions you should be asking Rossi?  You need to educate yourself before you interview him like I stated.  If you are educated you will be able to tell if Rossi is making stuff up on the spot or not.

Good luck and the challenge for you is to not do a pure fluff fan-boy interview.  As you can see there are literally hundreds of good solid questions you can ask Rossi but you have to do some homework if you want to do the best possible job.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

A little follow-up posting:

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I note that all of my proposed questions are based on the supposition that there is a beta E-Cat that can generate super-heated water at 600 C.   It is very possible that nothing has been done with respect to any connection between a 10 Kw 600 C E-Cat and the "outside world," that being a steam turbine and a transmission and a generator and a condenser and a water circulating pump, etc, etc.

If that's the case Hank then you want to focus your questions on the E-Cat itself and the generation of a continuous stream of 10 kilowatts worth of 600 C superheated high-pressure water or 600 C dry steam.   There are still hundreds of good questions you could ask Rossi as illustrated above.   You can ask him about the pump that pumps coolant through the reactor.  What kind of pump is it?

You can still let Rossi keep his "secret sauce" LENR reaction technology and still ask him about how the E-Cat functions and how it is tested, etc.  None of this would be particularly confidential information, small power plants have been around for over a hundred years.  You want to get a sense of how the device works without knowing about the proprietary heat generation mechanism.

Again, don't let your interview get derailed by asking Rossi about something that doesn't even exist.   In theory all that Rossi needs to do is feed cold water into the 600 C E-Cat at a certain flow rate and measure 600 C steam coming out the other side of the device.   That 600 C steam could simply be vented through the roof of their lab for all they care.

Notice, that's a good question right there:   If Rossi is claiming a new E-Cat that produces 10 Kw of 600 C steam, how is he testing that?   Is it like I just said, they pipe cold water into it and blow 600 C steam outside of the building the lab is in?  That would be perfectly valid.  You can ask about the all important control system for maintaining the 600 C steam output.   Does the control system control a pump to regulate the flow of water into and out of the E-Cat?  What kind of pump?   The list goes on and on.

MileHigh

[chessnyt]

@Everyone:
Rossi makes another statement regarding the rights of those who purchase his product:

Antonella
July 7th, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Caro Andrea,

Anyone is wondering why the skeptics have not acquired a powerful facility to have undergone the test looking for. I heard two hypotheses, both inconsistent, in my opinion.  The first is that your company has denied the purchase, but I see no sense, because in the meantime, Dick Smith had offered a facility in exchange for one million "to see", and also because a customer refused suppose you would have done bad publicity.  The second hypothesis is that potential customers have not been satisfied, but not speak because of an NDA. I have difficulty believing that an NDA will be able to prevent them from being spun anonymous voices.

You can talk about it? Thanks and best regards,

Antonella

Andrea Rossi
July 7th, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Dear Antonella:

You are right, anybody can buy a 1 MW plant and make all the tests he wants and obviously anybody is free to give information to anybody regarding a property of his.

Warm Regards,
A.R.


Chess

[MileHigh]

Chess:

Dear Antonella:

You are right, anybody can buy a 1 MW plant and make all the tests he wants and obviously anybody is free to give information to anybody regarding a property of his.

Warm Regards,
A.R.

If anybody can buy a 1 MW plant and then release the results of their testing that would make one think that Rossi has absolutely nothing to hide.  If that's the case then why doesn't Rossi himself release the specifications with full independent third-party confirmation of the specifications?

Forget that bizarre public demonstration with the 500 KW generator running in the background and the unverified claims of 400 Kw of thermal power being produced, it just won't cut it.

MileHigh