FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

[MileHigh]

Wilby:

Yes indeed, I went out on a limb there and I was wrong due to my ignorance.  Not "common sense" but rather ignorance, because the average person is not reading nuclear research journals.

See, I can admit when I make a mistake.

But one more time, you are still at your game.  You are fully aware that "common sense" is not at play here.  In fact, I would not be surprised if you did some Googling before you came back to make that posting.

You really should seek medical help for your deep-rooted psychological problems Wilby.

MileHigh

[Gwandau]

Well well, my friends,

I think we all are stuck on the Ocean of uncertainty at this certain point, sitting in in our sailboats waiting for real winds to carry us on.
The only difference between us is which way our boats are directed in these horse latitudes, since we are two very opposite kinds of personalities represented here that expect the wind to come from opposite directions when it finally arrives.

The only thing we have right now are indications, and these are interpreted according to our individual preconceptions.

This is directed to both sides in this matter: There is not one bit more creditibility to the pessimist than the optimist at this point.

It is all about choosing side, or staying poised in between.

And remember, this is all fun, we should enjoy this period of uncertainty since we have nothing personal to defend.

Things just are as they are.

I am representing the optimist, and I have interpreted the history of AR as absolutely non criminal since I have read the full story behind his efforts in Italy to convert industry wastes into feasable engine fuels, which threatened to rip the oil industry of some 10 percent of their income, which in turn was the single reason for the lobbying and sudden introduction of a new law prohibiting waste storage without proper licenses. He was simply framed.

What many doesn't seem to bother looking up, is that Andrea Rossi was freed on all charges, and that the costs for this huge trial did cost him his whole family estate and every penny he owned, leaving him totally broke and crushed by his enemies.

So from my point of view, Andrea Rossi is a thrustworthy person and an environmentalist with high integrity and morals.



MileHigh,

if Andrea Rossi was such a paramount scammer of almost biblical proportions that you propose, how on earth would he ever be able to get away with it?

Do you for one second think that by now globally well known Andrea Rossi would have the slightest chance to get away with such a crime? The moment he was exposed, all his money and accounts would be traced and confiscated. He would also inevitably be disgracing himself and his wife and family to becoming one of the most hated persons on earth.

You must have realized by now that Andrea Rossi and the e-cat has become all to big to allow for any such schemes.

So why are you putting soo much energy into discrediting Andrea Rossi?

Why is it soo important for you to stall all optimism?  Especially when so many things actually indicates that the E-cat is for real.

Don't you like sound optimism?


Gwandau

[sparks]

    Milehigh does express quite clearly the difficulties in moving from the lab to the production line.  This move is even made more difficult when the product involves decentralization of power.   I imagine anyone purchasing a LENR device would have to obtain a license to operate a nueclear power device from governing agencies who regulate neuclear energy, (unless this falls below some threshold or into a loophole.)   Being pragmatic should not be mistaken for being a pessimist.    I think Rossi has taken a very crafty stance in all this.  He is bascially not promising anything.  You want it here it is buy it with no implied or expressed guarantees.  There is no legal recourse the buyer has if he makes no representation as to what the buyer is paying for.  He could sell them as curios like plasma balls in a joke shop.  You may be able to pickup an Ecat down at the local mall.  Show me the money here is your Ecat.   He could hold an auction and let various groups bid on them.  Once UL puts it seal of approval on it he can distribute them any way he wants.

[Gwandau]

sparks,

since the very LENR process in itself inhibits any radiation leakage besides infrared heat, the E-Cat seems a lot safer than a conventional Microwave oven.
If you look it up, you will find that this applies for LENR,CANR as well as for LENT processes since these are due to the same reaction syndrome.

There are many products for domestic use containing shielded radioactive material, such as fire alarms and so on,
so I don't think there would be any big problems for the producers of the oncoming LENR market to get things rolling.

You just can't get stuck on the word nuclear power device since it directly aims at the concept Nuclear Reactor ,
and we all know that LENR is NOT a nuclear fusion reaction in its commonly used sense.

By calling the E-cat a nuclear reactor you are deviating from facts. New facts, still to be thoroghly evaulated, but still nothing close to a old school nuclear reaction.

Look around you, there is plenty of questionable radiating marketed products all around us.

Domestic products like microwave ovens are potential killers if the safety switch fails and radiation does not shut down when you open the microwave door.
Within seconds coagulated blood inside your exposed hand will be transported to vital organs such as the heart and the lungs, most likely giving you a lethal thrombus.

And did you know that micro wave ovens are even allowed to emit a certain allowed radiation leakage:
Quote from Autralian standard specifications:
" The microwave leakage at any point 50 millimetres or more from the external surface of the appliance shall not exceed 50 watts per square metre'.
  This Standard applies to ovens designed for domestic applications."

To sum all this, to label the E-Cat as a nuclear reactor as explained by conventional science is same as posting false and misleading information.

Please guys, do your homework, otherwise wrongly based critiscism just lowers your own creditibilty.

Gwandau

[kokles]

if Andrea Rossi was such a paramount scammer of almost biblical proportions that you propose, how on earth would he ever be able to get away with it?

Do you for one second think that by now globally well known Andrea Rossi would have the slightest chance to get away with such a crime? The moment he was exposed, all his money and accounts would be traced and confiscated. He would also inevitably be disgracing himself and his wife and family to becoming one of the most hated persons on earth.

You must have realized by now that Andrea Rossi and the e-cat has become all to big to allow for any such schemes.

So why are you putting soo much energy into discrediting Andrea Rossi?

Why is it soo important for you to stall all optimism?  Especially when so many things actually indicates that the E-cat is for real.

Don't you like sound optimism?


Gwandau

This is seriously bonkers. Don't we remember the names of folks like Parendev, Bedini, Hutchinson, that annoying Searl guy, Stanley Meyer and even before the likes of Keely?? All were/are scammers and none of them have been brought to justice (ok Meyer is dead). Or remember Moller skycar?? That guy is also an scammer who has lived off his investors money which he got for giving them promises he knew he coudln't never fulfill.

I've been looking at overunity, freenergy and whatever "amazing" devices since i was about 14 .. now i'm 27 and after a college degree in physics and seeing hundreds of videos with devices which their owners claim to be self running I can't be convinced that these "inventors" are honest people. Why? Well they promised working devices eons ago and still nothing.. alot of these scammers are still alive so all these paranoid conspiracies about big oil hunting them are BS. Big oil and governments just do not have to interfere because there was never any need to.

Also you think that e-cat is big?? Biblical proportions?? Lol it's not.. the only ones who care about someone named Ross and his "e-cat" are few folks on the internet who kill their time in their basements try to rig up some funky magnet motors while being lied to by scammers all the time. Wake up. There are many places in physics and engineering that can help people become more energy independent but they're not found in videos of all of these liars who give claims that they never back up.