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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

Gwandau

Quote from: sparks on July 12, 2012, 08:51:22 AM

...  When a proton is fused into a neucleus the mass of the proton is less than when the proton was unbound.  This difference in mass is RADIATED.  This is a simple mass to energy conversion.  The radiation is then absorbed by something that is heated by rf current voltage drop which depends upon the resistance of the object to be heated.  So in this particular transmutation the process is a mass to energy conversion.  The unbound proton is more massive than the bound proton.  The difference is radiated.  ...


sparks,

This is a typical misunderstanding which reflect the minds of many "old school" conditioned people today who find LENR hard to accept.
Your description above is an gross oversimplification of LENR, which is a delicate and quite intricate and hitherto not fully understood process, perhaps making the coloumb barrier act as a semi transtarent mirror as suggested by some, quite contrary to the rather simple and almost direct nuclear reaction of mass to energy conversion in the primitive and violent hot fusion method.

You have to understand that the +50 year old hot fusion method is a brute force method really lacking any understanding of how to overcome the Coloumb barrier without bombarding the target with an overdose of energy.

It's like bombing the front door instead of using the proper key to open the door.

The nuclear scientists haven't yet nailed the exact process but the Widom-Larsen theory is by far the most intriguing,
and below is a condensation of that theory copied from an earlier post by gravityblock:


"Widom-Larsen Theory explains Low Energy Nuclear Reactions & why they are safe and green.

The W-L theory also explains why hard gamma and X-rays are not released during LENR system operation. This arises from unique heavy-mass electrons created by the very strong nanoscale electric fields that occur in regions above localized patches of collectively oscillating protons and deuterons where neutron production and absorption are taking place. Unlike isolated normal-mass electrons situated in a vacuum or a hot plasma, heavy-mass electrons created in condensed matter LENR systems can directly absorb a hard gamma or X-ray photon, “ring like a bell” for an infinitesimal fraction of a second, then (according to conservation of energy) re-radiate a much larger number of much less energetic photons (mostly in the infrared region, with a much smaller ‘tail’ of soft X-ray photons).

In operating LENR systems, therefore, hard gamma ray photons in an energy range between 0.5 MeV and 10.0 MeV (often created during absorption of ULM neutrons by some, but not all, atoms/isotopes) are locally absorbed by heavy-mass electrons before they can escape. Those electrons then convert the absorbed gammas directly into raw heat in the form of benign infrared photons that are also locally absorbed. LENR systems have what amounts to built-in gamma shielding during operation, a remarkable property by any standard.
A gamma-absorbing ‘patch layer’ of heavy-mass electrons in an LENR system has the ability to stop a very dangerous (~5 MeV) gamma ray in less than two nanometres. Whereas it would take ~10 cm of lead, ~25 cm of steel, or ~1 metre of very heavy concrete to accomplish the same degree of protection against ‘hard’ gamma radiation."

Gwandau

chessnyt

@Everyone:
The latest word from Rossi is that he assures everyone that reports are on the way and he wants us all to be patient.  Keep in mind that Rome was not built in one day. 

What this technology represents is absolutely phenomenal and the fact that Rossi is the one who is the furthest along in the advance of this new technology is exciting to say the least.  Rossi's devices reaching the market represents a huge victory for mankind and the preservation of our species. 

"Good things come to those who wait..." and so on this note, I'll close for now.


Best wishes,

Chess

sparks

    I really don't care about intermediate steps but the overall reaction is   H + Ni= Cu + Energy   It consumes hydrogen and nickel with a high yield of heat.  What this heat will be used for is my concern.  Without a paradigm shift where man becomes less concerned with his machines and more concerned with his fellow lifeforms I see this device or any device that has the potential to accelerate man's industrial folly as no different than a piece of coal.   Don't you realize that the industrial revolution is an industrial disaster.  It has threatened the entire ecosystem of the planet producing machines.  It has resulted in a huge amount of energy now residing in machines and waste heat.  We are still a pack of exploitave monkies who travel in the jungle picking fruit and defeceating all over the place never looking back.  Relying on a group of half-wits called leaders to find the next fruit tree to demolish.  The industrialization of China is the straw that broke the camels back.  Millions of farmers are now machine slaves.  The US industrialized china.  Now the entire Northern hemisphere on Earth is producing machines.  Farmers are growing fuel crops to burn in machines that make machines.  We are totally wacked tool monkies. No more sophisticated than the first monkey to use a stick to bat down a bannana.
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Quote from: sparks on July 13, 2012, 09:30:31 AM
  We are totally wacked tool monkies. No more sophisticated than the first monkey to use a stick to bat down a bannana.

So then tools do help prevent starvation?

Qwert

Quote from: sparks on July 13, 2012, 09:30:31 AM
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That's all truth. But, who is responsible for giving us our consciousness? Yet each single human being has different wit. It's pretty old knowledge that the civilization is self-destroying. And the culprit is one: our cosciousness; still not the top quality, still found only in religious and New Age movement. People are not perfect. But this is the choice of THE CREATOR.

On Don Smith's site there is (was) a story of an experiment with monkeys and their consciousness. I find it nicely explained how the community (maybe even global) consciousness work. But I can't find this site and the story anymore.