Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[ibpointless2]

I built two very small cells and I am getting great results. The cells are about 1 inch long and about 5/32's thick. There is very little mixture but I am still getting 1.16 volts each. This was a test to see if it is worth testing on a microscopic level. I believe the test warrants further testing at a microscopic level. The difference is my next testing will be with the use of plates insted of tubes and rods.
Please note that my cells use no water or heat or any kind initial power to jump start them.

I would love to know the mixture.

[jbignes5]

 Although the process works with plates I believe to make the best cell it will need to be round. This way the forces are centralized both electrical and physical. This will add to the toughness of the cells in both ways. But for testing purposes there is plenty of room for experimenting. Plates to me are harder to work with and since tubes or pipes are so readily available I'm gonna stick with those.

I'll be heading to the hardware store soon to get the copper tube and magnesium ribbon<-if they have any.

If not then maybe this site?? http://catalog.miniscience.com/catalog/metals/Magnesium.html

Wow this site is awesome for high purity samples. They even have bismuth! Wow

Ok back to the discussion. Try this information and see how you see the water issue... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_of_crystallization

You know I have had a chance to start thinking about how water is just about everywhere in the universe. Even in space. This solvent you talk about is really the Aether. With water being a condensation of that solvent. Our views of energy have been skewed by our lust for money. You know we should have that same feeling twords living life first. It's funny how we forget that we are energy beings and since energy can never be destroyed, what does that say for our existence? we are like pupa stage in evolution and when this matter drops away we have learned that energy is eternal. Organization of that energy is a training thing over time. Out matter hold our energy into distinct patterns for so long that it trains the energy into patterns that hold even after this pupa stage dies.

Now knowing that can you see how important water is? It is the condensate of the Universal Solvent we float in! It is the key to unlimited power and it is reusable to the nth degree. As long as you can contain it. I think you are right that you can never stop water from doing it's job unless you understand what water reacts to. I tried to show you that since the crystalline structure condenses around the water it literally traps the water inside via the static forces the crystalline structure provides. This water can move though. It has room to slide inside the structure. If you look at the studies presented earlier about the crystalline structure those were static representations. If we add movement to the lattice examples you would see that water can move one way or the other usually.

There were experiments on this forum that talked about charging water with electrical stimulation. Well this is what we are doing with these batteries. think of it as a very organized bucket brigade. The flow is kept constant by the water charging, moving then discharging. Sometimes if the pull is too great on the water it will dissolve the structure and pass into the next cell. This is a bad thing! although I believe this process can heal as well. This is where higher currents come from unless you have more mass to handle the load. Like you have found out more mass = more power without stress damage.

I think we need to get computer help to manage the power unit. Something that can control the process as we use it. An active control that manages the growth and health of these cells. If we computerize the environmental controls of the power unit we should get a better matrix to pull the energy we need from the Universal noise or waste product of all life in the Universe.

We know these units are getting the power from the environment. Thats what the electrodes are for. We set up strings that are strummed by the Universe in between those electrodes and use half that power. Remember this is a diode.

When John B talks about the oxide layer he is merely saying that we form a barrier of static potential on the metal and remember that the water responds to static potentials. This structure is only as strong as the metals potential. This is based on surface area and the geometry of the structure that forms on the metal. Like in electrolytic caps the oxide layer can self heal via the oxygen in the water inside of the crystal. Yes this can damage the electrode but not to a great extent if we manage the process and the oxygen can be replaced as well.

These "batteries" (ACTIVE Diodes) will need a controlled environment to work to the fullest extent. An environment that is self contained and recycling. Also I believe that we will only be able to get a certain amount of energy out of a square foot of this process. So batteries will be bulky but super powerful at that point. I guess my best example would be the warp core on the StarTrek series. The core is pretty big and I think we are gonna need that kind of scale to get the power we need. The power is not voltage based but it is current based. Low voltage but super high current that we can convert to any potential value by induction coils or pulse circuits.

I have a nagging suspicion that these diodes would respond to an external electric field like an exciter while they are running. Maybe like a resonate loop device. Get the right frequency and they go into overdrive. I have asked this before but has anyone exposed these diodes to the exciter fields? Has anyone looked at the diodes power on a scope to see if there is anything that we can determine about the frequency they put out?

Has anyone tried Bismuth instead of magnesium or copper? That science place has 99.99% pure pellets for sale 1 pound for 35 dollars... Hmmm... http://shop.miniscience.com/navigation/detail.asp?id=BIPELL
The desciption says the more the magnetic field it gets the higher the resistance of the metal. I think a resistance to this stuff would bring the pressure way high then all you would need to do is pulse the load from the resistance. Like a bypass to the resistance. My thinking is that if we have a minute flow it is still a flow and it biases the crystals on. As long as they flow they are capable of very high spurts in a very quick amount of time. John B showed that they are capable of huge bursts. I think others have said that they grow stronger with a load on them. Store them with resistors and they grow internally. Use them and they grow even more because they have to pull more in to replace what you use, charge wise.

I wonder what would happen if we built these like silicon, with masking and nano fab techniques??

[NickZ]

  The analogy of the cells being similar to an electrolytic capacitor is valid.
The reason these celld, as well as capacitors, diodes, red and infrared leds, and possibly other components can produce a voltage and current as well, is all due to the same reason. Which is external to the cells, is due to the field energies created by the vortex of this planet, which is a sub vortex of the Master Vortex of our Solar System, which is also in another bigger vortex yet. It is these field energies we need to harvest, and not the galvanic self destructing reaction.
   There is nothing in heaven or Earth that can produce an output perpetually without a perpetual input. That input is the Aether, which the capacitor and other component mentioned are able to use and separate into a positive and negative pole that we call a dipole. That is the working principal of these cells. The degree that they can conduct this input, is determined not just by the electronegative ratings of the metals, or carbon, but also on the ion concentration and ion flux rate and ability of the electrolytic materials.
  When we use water, salts, acid, or alkaline substances we are altering the cells ability to transfer that Aether fed input, and it becomes something else, the galvanic reaction. 
  Weather semiconductors have a place in these cells or not is to be determined, in time. I feel that they will allow us to further improve the output, in time.
   The amount of voltage that a non-galvanic cell can produce up to now has been very limited, to just a few miliamps, as compare to regular batteries. Even an AA battery can produce 3 amps. which would take many of our non galvanic cells to to produce or replicate that output.
But the proof of the ability of our cells to convert Aether into usable power, is seen in there ability to not ever need a charge and that they never totally discharge. This ability is not seen in a regular battery, as we all know. Point being that these are not batteries and are not galvanic, even though the galvanic reaction can play a role if liquids or even air (oxygen) are present.
  I hope that I'm not boring anyone.

[nightlife]

I would love to know the mixture.

It's just Epson salt, salt substitute and Elmers glue. I would have used Alum but you have to heat it and I dont want to build any cells you need to add excessive energy to. Atleast not yet.
I am a really busy person with 4 differnt business's I run. Two of which are 24 hour towing companys. I had seen the results you were all getting so I thought I would see for myself since it was simple and I found it does work. I will try and start devoting some time to this trying different mixtures and different cell materials but I just can't commit much time to it at this time. John had said that the smaller the cell, the better and that is why I will be working with the smallest I can build.
Keep up the good work and note that I appluad you for what you have done thus far.

[nightlife]

 I forgot to mention that I used 5/32's aluminum tube and a copper rod that I picked up at Hobby Lobby.