Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[NickZ]

  I don't add any water at all,  just with the compresed wood carbon inside the capacitor can, I get 0.88v, and they go up from there. If you add a carbon rod or pencil lead they'll go over a volt.  Yesterday before I put the glue on top of the cells to seal them I got almost 2 volts (1.93v), in series. Which I though was not bad for there size, just right after they were made.

  If you use Ib salt mix inside a capacitor can, with a lead pencil lead anode you should get 1.5 volts, or so, and who knows how many mA.
 
   Ib2: What is the blue cell reading now?   I still can't believe that you're getting 400+mA. I hope it lasts.
   My hot dog cell has shorted out from the final coat of glue application, so I'm waiting for it to dry out.  It takes a while...

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[jbignes5]

  I don't add any water at all,  just with the compresed wood carbon inside the capacitor can, I get 0.88v, and they go up from there. If you add a carbon rod or pencil lead they'll go over a volt.  Yesterday before I put the glue on top of the cells to seal them I got almost 2 volts (1.93v), in series. Which I though was not bad for there size, just right after they were made.

  If you use Ib salt mix inside a capacitor can, with a lead pencil lead anode you should get 1.5 volts, or so, and who knows how many mA.
 
   Ib2: What is the blue cell reading now?   I still can't believe that you're getting 400+mA. I hope it lasts.
   My hot dog cell has shorted out from the final coat of glue application, so I'm waiting for it to dry out.  It takes a while...

Yeah I know nick about the water. The only reason I am using water is because of the carbon. When I added it to the water it skinned the water . It was a metallic reflection and looked really cool. I wanted to bake it but even at 200 degrees it fluffed up like a cake. It did get rid of a lot of water. So I tamped it down like you do with sand and kept pulling the water to the surface and it allowed me to compact the carbon around the graphite 5.6 mm lead. It still is showing only .36volts but I highly doubt it is completely dry. Last night I stored it in the bottom of the oven which has a pilot light. That kept it to about 100 degrees or so all night.


I made two mixes of carbon and alum. Carbon and Potassium. I might give the can when I try these mixes a light coating of borax to protect the aluminum. I still havent figured that out.


I did oxiclean the can which should have oxidized the aluminum to better protect it from the water. We will see...


Did you happen to try and check for the ac signal I am seeing on my IB cells?

[NickZ]

  What I have to do with the beach wood carbon is test each piece for conductivity, as much of it is not very good as a conducting medium, but some is.
My hot dog cell, now is at 0.90 volt when last night it was a  0 volt, 0 mA, due to the coat of white glue applied to seal the blow holes that it had. It just blew more holes, but the mA reading is still way down.

If you can add Linseed oil and mineral spirits to dilute the oil, and mix that with the carbon, you can also press the carbon into any mold. It does need to dry out after that for some days. But the mineral spirits are what allow it evaporate quicker.  Anyways, thats what I've heard, but have not needed to do any of it.  Although adding something like graphite powder, or other things to the electrolyte mix can help to increase the current, and is why I add quartz, but sand may work as well. I've also added a pinch of pulverized sea shells, so it's a matter of trying it all out, but the main thing is finding the right carbon for these cells.

   You'll find that the reason that there can be a one wire connection with your 4 cell set up still dimly lighting an led, is due to the AC house power, so if you turn off the breakers,  you'll  see the one wire connection to your cells will not light as before. 
  I would imagine that since the cells are also antennas, that if the cell geometry and dimensions are tuned just right, they would be able to pick up more energy from the ambient, than just what two short dissimilar pieces of Mg/Cu wires can do. And this may happen at the nano scale as well.

[jbignes5]

  What I have to do with the beach wood carbon is test each piece for conductivity, as much of it is not very good as a conducting medium, but some is.
My hot dog cell, now is at 0.90 volt when last night it was a  0 volt, 0 mA, due to the coat of white glue applied to seal the blow holes that it had. It just blew more holes, but the mA reading is still way down.

If you can add Linseed oil and mineral spirits to dilute the oil, and mix that with the carbon, you can also press the carbon into any mold. It does need to dry out after that for some days. But the mineral spirits are what allow it evaporate quicker.  Anyways, thats what I've heard, but have not needed to do any of it.  Although adding something like graphite powder, or other things to the electrolyte mix can help to increase the current, and is why I add quartz, but sand may work as well. I've also added a pinch of pulverized sea shells, so it's a matter of trying it all out, but the main thing is finding the right carbon for these cells.

   You'll find that the reason that there can be a one wire connection with your 4 cell set up still dimly lighting an led, is due to the AC house power, so if you turn off the breakers,  you'll  see the one wire connection to your cells will not light as before. 
  I would imagine that since the cells are also antennas, that if the cell geometry and dimensions are tuned just right, they would be able to pick up more energy from the ambient, than just what two short dissimilar pieces of Mg/Cu wires can do. And this may happen at the nano scale as well.

I was thinking about oils as well. And this might be what is causing your intermittent conduction problems. Probably viens of sap that increse the conduction.


The connection to my setup is this.


5 cells in series. Connected in the normal fashion to a bridge rectifier then to a cap and led parallel connection. I have tons of devices that use ac and have exposed the batteries to them all and no rise in ac voltage. If this was an inductive process the voltage would increase with the increased exposure to the source. Nothing seems to affect the signal including high voltage sources like my led monitor. The back light is high voltage. Like I said I don't understand how this could be done. Maybe an inductive fear cage would shield it totally from emf radiation in the ac field but I am having a hard time finding the source. I think I need an emf meter and see what the fields are like in here just to rule it out. There is only two feeder lines to my room and they are on the opposite side of the room from me.


This ac signal is not done by one wire I am getting it from both terminals of the 5 battery set. The normal dc voltage is 2.97 volts dc. When I switch it to ac I get 5.4 volts ac. The batteries tends to stay around there slowly going up and down as the day wears on. The weird thing is the batteries still needs to rest because of lower current but the voltage stays about the same.


When I look at the scope across the battery I can see the pulses. I got to see what frequency this is. I have a wireless router as well so that might be it too and wireless phones.