Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells

[ibpointless2]

@Ibpointless2:
You have been very quiet of late, do not let recent events get you down.  I invite you to try the bioplastic stove top mix that I have worked with.  The original mix is now 6 weeks old and the sheet sandwiched between copper foil and magnesium is still running very strong.  I have used this cell to power lidmotors low power circuits as well as lasersabers low power joule ringer circuit.  I am planning to make another batch this weekend and make several cells to see how they work in series and parallel.  If it would help, I can video the making of the mix, just let me know.

  Brad S

Thank you for your concern Brad but i'm quite happy with the recent events that concern my cells. I've talk to lidmotor about the stove cell thats been running for over 6 month straight and he has confirmed that the cell once disconnected from the load started to recharge itself again and was able to power Penny. Lidmotor says he's not going to take that one apart just yet as I think he's waiting for it to charge up some more. I don't expect the cell to fully recharge due to the environment will eat away at it but I'm glad to hear the voltage did recharge itself and was able to power a load. John Bedini has been very quiet too, I think the post from Lidmotor and Plengo has got him concerned about his cells corroding. In-fact it seems everyone is very quiet on EF. I've been busy working on crystal glue cells in series and parallel to charge a capacitor, i've got a lot of cells sitting around awaiting for me to connect them. I've got crystal glue cells from the beginning of last year that are still alive and some are even giving me higher than normal voltage and not once do they need a drop of water. Like I said to Lidmotor i never expected the stove top cell to last, it was only to prove a point that you don't need water ever to get voltage from to dissimilar metals.


Its funny you mention the bio-plastic, early today i was re-watching the videos on how to make it and i was plotting how i would add my mix to it. I would love a video on how you make yours. I figured i should add the salts into the water first and than add the rest of the stuff. Its great to see that the bio-plastic works great, I think the bio-plastic is a good addition to the crystal cells, great work on finding it out! 


With my cells i know I have something that is not just a Potato clock, but its something very different. But no one will care unless I'm powering LED"s at their full brightness.


I do thank you Brad and everyone else who work very hard in this tough game we call crystal cells. 

[PhiChaser]

Thought I would post a pic of my latest series of cells. The eight on top are from yesterday, the bottom right three are from this morning, the bottom two on the left are from a few days ago. Sorry for the crappy pic, just thought I would share how I've been making cells lately. Interesting how they 'set up' differently and look different on the outside surfaces depending on what ingredients are in them... Anyhow.

PC

[ibpointless2]

Thought I would post a pic of my latest series of cells. The eight on top are from yesterday, the bottom right three are from this morning, the bottom two on the left are from a few days ago. Sorry for the crappy pic, just thought I would share how I've been making cells lately. Interesting how they 'set up' differently and look different on the outside surfaces depending on what ingredients are in them... Anyhow.

PC

Very nice work, nice and clean. Was this the ones that get made in the ice cube trays? What is their voltages and what electrodes did you use?

[PhiChaser]

Very nice work, nice and clean. Was this the ones that get made in the ice cube trays? What is their voltages and what electrodes did you use?

Yep, all of them came out of dollar store ice cube trays. Electrodes are pultruded carbon tubing and twisted aluminum wire.
The two I made on the 11th (four days ago) are fully hardened (I'm pretty sure). Most of the others are not there but let's see... I was testing these cells this morning but that was a couple hours ago... These were the ones with a little bit of vitamin c in the mix.

0.68v and falling slowly (both) - 1.30v and falling slowly in series - 80uA and slowly dropping - below 30uA after a couple minutes... These seem to me more 'stable' than most of the cells of this type.

Okay, I've been patient, I really have. The three I made this morning sparkle in the light!
So... Keep in mind these cells are pretty hard and less than four hours old so there is probably some H2O inside still...

0.59v and falling steadily below 0.5v (all three) - Disappointing - 1.64v with all three in series, falling to below 1.25v in less than a minute -  30uA and falling quickly, below 10uA within minutes... Again, drat.
Was really hoping for something more exciting... LOL!

From this data I would say that vitamin c is not needed in larger quantities.
Just because a cell 'sparkles' doesn't mean it is gonna be better than a dull ugly one... The beat goes on...
The two cells nearly outperformed the three! Well those three will be tagged and bagged (along with the rest)...

At least I have an idea of what direction to go from here. My thinking is the vitamin c (ascorbic acid) acts in much the same way as the fumaric acid does in the sub salt...

Happy experimenting,
PC

EDIT: Here is a closeup pic of one of the cells I made this morning. You can sort of see the sparkle...

[jbignes5]

I started to look at what we teach in the college today. And it dawned on me that they do not apply fields and field boundries or even the reactiveness of fields.


[size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_4ZckeQ1k&feature=related[/size]


They do admit that at the smallest levels is a static potential based. They do admit that it mirrors our planet with the moon.


What I would like to see is that they admit that the electron is not matter but a gathering of charges that tends to mirror the central potential minus the spherical shield effect. This shield is actually a boundary layer and when referenced to each other they appear to be opposite in charge but they are not in reality opposite. Especially when measured against the background charge. Yes one has more potential then the other but I suggest that it is in the quarter wave setup. So the electrons charge would be 1/4 of the charge on the proton but they are of the same charge and hence why they repel each other. This is only possible if we look and think about  the 3d version. The electron is not negative per say. It is only a fraction of the charge in the proton.


When I started to think about the 3d version of the atom we really see our planet and moon in the case of hydrogen. There are many forces at work here. Masses on that scale tend to polarize the surrounding space in such a way that organizes or separates the flows of that polarization. You could imagine the planet in a 2d sense when you view an island from very high up looking down. Waves in the medium (water) have a much different force when you change the viewpoint. This is kinda what polarization is and how it moves. Water is not moving much but it is still imparting a greater force when it polarizes over great areas.  In fact in most cases if the island is big enough you might not be able to escape the island because the polarizing waves are too strong and push you back.


This might help you to understand the fields we are talking about: One note the last part is the reference to atoms and the polarizing lines around that atom.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3csi-2Hrzhg