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another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.

Started by Rosemary Ainslie, November 08, 2011, 09:15:50 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 14, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Harti, here's the extent of our claim. I confidently predict that there will be almost NO discharge of energy from the experimental test when the control will be flat.  I think it would be unreasonable to propose that this amount of energy is supplied from capacitance related to the transistors.  Or indeed to anything.  But it is, in any event, immaterial.  I will simply position a non inductive shunt resistor at the output of the function generator to show the energy that is either being put out by that generator or being returned to it. 

I'll try this again.  We CANNOT GET THE REQUIRED CONTROL OVER THE SWITCH with a 555.  Therefore we can't do the higher wattage test.  And I'm NOT about to engage in a test that's restricted or limited to 5 watts or less.  It's neither significant at these levels - nor conclusive.

Regards
Rosemary

It's nice to have you admit finally that your original Quantum article circuit, where you used a 555 timer and claimed COP>17, cannot work.

And let me point out YET AGAIN that your famous test described in the quote where you betray your ignorance about power and energy and math.... that test only applied A FEW WATTS to your load, by your own numbers--- when the calculation is done correctly--- as it has been done by at least 4 other people besides me.

ETA: It appears that the reported test applied, by my calculation, an average of about 56 Watts to the load... that is, 331,000 Joules per 6000 seconds, or about 56 Joules per second. More than I thought... but much less than Rosemary's figure of 4170 Watts.... that is, using her figure of 25 million Joules applied over the 100 minutes of the test.

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 14, 2012, 05:27:25 PM
It's nice to have you admit finally that your original Quantum article circuit, where you used a 555 timer and claimed COP>17, cannot work.

And let me point out YET AGAIN that your famous test described in the quote where you betray your ignorance about power and energy and math.... that test only applied A FEW WATTS to your load, by your own numbers--- when the calculation is done correctly--- as it has been done by at least 4 other people besides me.

Golly TK.

Can you not understand the written word?  Or is this YET another attempt to denigrate our technology?  We cannot get the control over the 555 switch to dissipate NOT LESS THAN 50 WATTS - which is our nominal target for these tests.  I explained this. As Poynty puts it RTFP.  Or are you suggesting that the function generator is able to apply that much energy?  Which would be a truly remarkable feat.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie Pose.

TinselKoala

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on March 14, 2012, 05:34:41 PM
Golly TK.

Can you not understand the written word?  Or is this YET another attempt to denigrate our technology?  We cannot get the control over the 555 switch to dissipate NOT LESS THAN 50 WATTS - which is our nominal target for these tests.  I explained this. As Poynty puts it RTFP.  Or are you suggesting that the function generator is able to apply that much energy?  Which would be a truly remarkable feat.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie Pose.

Golly, Rosemary.... you claim that your test put out 25,000,000 Joules in a hundred minutes. Now that's a remarkable feat.
Or is it just a wrong calculation and a lying claim on your part?
QuoteWe've taken a little under 900 grams of water to 82 degrees centigrade.  We ran that test for 90 minutes.  Then we upped the frequency and took that water up a further 20 degrees to 104.  We ran that part of the test for 10 minutes.  Ambient was at 16.  Joules = 1 watt per second.  So.  Do the math.  4.18 x 900 grams x (82 - 16) 66 degrees C = 248 292 joules per second x 90 minutes of the test period = 22 342 280 joules.  Then ADD the last 10 minutes where the water was taken to boil and now you have 4.18 x 900 grams x (104 - 16) 88 degrees C = 331 156 joules per second x 10 minutes = 3 310 560 Joules.  Then add those two values 22 342 280 + 3 310 560 = 25.6 Million Joules.

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 14, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
I would prefer to have the Function generator out of the circuit as we don´t know what kind of ground loop noise
it was generating together with the grounded scopes and other measurement devices...

There could easily humming groundloop currents exist.

If you are a musician, you know what I mean by this, if you ever had humming problems when connecting
many equipments to a mixer or a PA.

Maybe Rose can just use the 9 Volt Battery trick to get  the oscillation started and use the negative threshold voltage
of the 9 Volt battery and a pot for it.

ALso the capacitance of a gate to source or gate to drain electrodes of a MOSFET transistor
can be in the nanoFarads range, so if you use higher frequencies, this "Straycap" can really put some power
into your circuit.

Regards, Stefan.

There IS a way to obviate ALL GROUND ISSUES related to the use of the function generator.  I need to check with the manufacturer that it's possible to use it in this way - but if so we'll simply apply a two pronged plug - as is used on that Tektronix that we loaned. That's certainly doable and will obviate the need for that 555 test.  But I'll have to find out if this is possible.

Also. I am NOT about to test anything outside our circuit.  We have staked our claim in that paper - and that paper is related to that precise circuit. Nor will I. There is NO value in us doing any other circuit test as the ONLY objective is to prove the claim in the paper. 

Regards,
Rosemary

eatenbyagrue

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 14, 2012, 05:40:09 PM
Golly, Rosemary.... you claim that your test put out 25,000,000 Joules in a hundred minutes. Now that's a remarkable feat.

25 million is alot, to the point where I am a little concerned about safety.

Rosemary, are you concerned that if this circuit is replicated that the excess energy produced from it will have a negative impact on the earth?  In theory, you could have quite a large explosion when you have unlimited energy produced from a small space.  Nature has evolved to naturally deal with under-unity sources of energy, which are limited in nature, but this unlimited energy could really pose a challenge.

Do you have any suggestions for those of us who plan to use this circuit for home heating and so forth?  How can we use this energy safely so that it does not wreak havoc on earth climate?