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[Low-Q]

This is the reason why your experiment probably will fail. A small magnet will limit the ability to separate the iron parts if the iron parts is bigger than the magnet. In this case the iron parts attract each other. If the magnet was much wider, the iron parts would separate until maximum attraction occours between the magnet and the two iron parts. At that point the magnet will not freely move on to the next iron parts in order to separate them too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhWjn7Dy5Sw



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[broli]

This is the reason why your experiment probably will fail. A small magnet will limit the ability to separate the iron parts if the iron parts is bigger than the magnet. In this case the iron parts attract each other. If the magnet was much wider, the iron parts would separate until maximum attraction occours between the magnet and the two iron parts. At that point the magnet will not freely move on to the next iron parts in order to separate them too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhWjn7Dy5Sw



Vidar

Vidar you are correct in your setup. But it has been discussed for a while that it's better to use an air gap with a strong uniform field. Since the field is mostly directed in one direction you wouldn't have the issue you show where the field lines disperse too strongly causing a situation where the iron attracts. I recommend you redo the experiment with a setup where you contain the magnetic field with a C type core.

[gammarayburst]

Vidar you are correct in your setup. But it has been discussed for a while that it's better to use an air gap with a strong uniform field. Since the field is mostly directed in one direction you wouldn't have the issue you show where the field lines disperse too strongly causing a situation where the iron attracts. I recommend you redo the experiment with a setup where you contain the magnetic field with a C type core.

Look at our videos of tests Mark did on the bars seperating. Youtube, lafonte research
Thanks,
Butch

[gammarayburst]

This is the reason why your experiment probably will fail. A small magnet will limit the ability to separate the iron parts if the iron parts is bigger than the magnet. In this case the iron parts attract each other. If the magnet was much wider, the iron parts would separate until maximum attraction occours between the magnet and the two iron parts. At that point the magnet will not freely move on to the next iron parts in order to separate them too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhWjn7Dy5Sw



Vidar

Totally non-related to our design.
Butch

[Low-Q]

Vidar you are correct in your setup. But it has been discussed for a while that it's better to use an air gap with a strong uniform field. Since the field is mostly directed in one direction you wouldn't have the issue you show where the field lines disperse too strongly causing a situation where the iron attracts. I recommend you redo the experiment with a setup where you contain the magnetic field with a C type core.

Yes, maybe that will make a difference. I can try to simulate it too also. With the same magnet as in the video, I could separate two hex-wrench which has center-center much closer than the iron powder pieces.


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