Any proof?

[firda]

I hope my brain will not burn itself if that's all true
Thx

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

You're right, even for me is weird but, Why not ? You can't judge till we have replicated by ourselves !!!
Nature have a lot of surprise !!! (Sorry for my English, I'am French native.)

[firda]

As I said in my second post

The existence of this universe also suggest that it must be possible somehow.

I hope you helped me to find it after my looooong search for it

[ltseung888]

As I said in my second postI hope you helped me to find it after my looooong search for it(http://www.overunity.com/file:///C:/Users/Jen/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif)

Please learn and discuss with your professors and fellow students the following:


1.     The Instantaneous Power is equal to the product of the Instantaneous Voltage multiplied by the Instantaneous Current.  It does not matter whether the circuit is DC, AC or Pulsed.

2.    Use Channel 1 of your oscilloscope to measure Instantaneous Voltage.  Use Channel 2 to measure the resistance across a One Ohm resistor (Instantaneous Current).  Make sure that your oscilloscope has the multiple function.  Channel 1 * Channel 2 will give you the Instantaneous Power.

3.    Make sure that your Oscilloscope have the save function that can save picture (BMP files) and data (CSV files).  Use EXCEL to examine and play with the data in the CSV file.  Obtain the average of Ch1*Ch2.  Obtain the positive and negative only area of ch1*Ch2.

4.    Play with the above three steps until you are absolutely confident that your technique is perfect.  Most of the students and engineers in Irvine, USA did not master this at the beginning and got totally confused with the testing.

5.    Build a Joule Thief Circuit.  Google “Build a Joule Thief” to get the details.  Repeat multiple times until you mastered it.

6.    Wind a two wire coil on the toroid of the Joule Thief until it covered the entire toroid.  You effectively have two secondary coils.

7.    Use only one secondary coil first.  Put a LED and a one ohm resistor as load.  Treat that as Output Power.  Use Steps 1-3 and display the bmp file and the calculated Output average power.

8.    Use the battery side of the Joule Thief circuit.  Put in a one ohm resistor.  Use Steps 1-3 and display the bmp file and the calculated Input average power.

9.    If the result of 7 and 8 showed overunity (COP>1), you are lucky and congratulate yourself.

10. If you have not achieved overunity, you need to do tuning.  That may involve changing the holes on the breadboard; changing the length of wires; changing the one ohm resistor to two ohms or more; adding capacitors or changing the number of turns and using another toroid ring.

11. If you really have difficulty with 11, I can send you a tuned FLEET.  You must have demonstrated Steps 1-10 on the Internet before I send you a tuned one.  Even a tuned FLEET will change its characteristics due to shipping.  The bad experience and the resulting frustration stopped me from shipping any tuned FLEET to unproved groups or individuals.

You may have a working FLEET prototype demonstrating overunity with your oscilloscope in the Near Future - Year of the Dragon.  You may be drinking and enjoying the Divine Wine.

[firda]

So, i did a bit of searching. I'll have to check for those BMP+CSV, but my HW-colleague just obtained new oscilloscope/analyzer which seems to have these functions (it will take at least a week before I can return to my job-place/room).

P=U*I no doubt, but Joule Thief produces high spikes, right? Oscilloscope/analyzer has its limits as sampling frequency.
Isn't this all a problem of measurement?

Has anybody ever measured total input power (during the process of creation) and total output power
and proved, that measured total output power was greater than total input power ever put into it during the whole process?
This could be done by using three batteries, charge one, use it to start it up, recharge two empty batteries from it and the proof is done.

P.S.: Please, do not treat my reactions as "Hey, you stupid, this can never work!" but as "I appreciate your work and time, but my time is limited too and I have to do some selection first, Thank you".