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How dangerous is having a free energy device, exactly?

Started by Just George, March 12, 2012, 01:50:07 PM

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Low-Q

Quote from: tinu on March 13, 2012, 07:24:02 AM
Ok. I have several questions:

1. How is that different from a perpetuum mobile?
2. What kind of energy is the device consuming?
3. Why is the water still needed? (Why not producing electricity directly from the novel energy source, without the 30m dam, pipes and everything else?)

Tinu
That question will make history in any over unity community. Very, very good question!




Vidar

Just George

Quote from: tinu on March 13, 2012, 07:24:02 AM
Ok. I have several questions:

1. How is that different from a perpetuum mobile?
2. What kind of energy is the device consuming?
3. Why is the water still needed? (Why not producing electricity directly from the novel energy source, without the 30m dam, pipes and everything else?)

Tinu
1. Given that I have no idea how the device works specifically, nor what a perpetuum mobile is, the answer is...I don't know.
2. It isn't consuming energy. Merely redirecting it. (I know the answer to this because I asked)
3. Water is subject to gravity.

Just George

Quote from: Low-Q on March 13, 2012, 07:29:29 AM
Interesting question!


An over unity device, is per definition a device which produce more energy than it consumes. Assume that it works. What would happen if the device wasn't loaded? It would be able to feed back more energy than it consumes. Therfor the device would most probably self destroy within a very short time. Say it double the "looped input energy" every second. If friction is already over powered by the device, friction will never be a limit for how wrong this can go. Start with 1mW over unity, and double that every second for one minute run. Would the device be able to handle 1.153 x 1015 Watt of power?
As I said earlier, I don't know how the device works, and so cannot answer specific questions. I simply do not know.

Quote from: Low-Q on March 13, 2012, 07:29:29 AM
The feedback will be pretty much destructable within relatively short time.
Given that neither of us know how this thing actually works, it doesn't make sense to make suppositions like that, nor for me to try to answer.

Quote from: Low-Q on March 13, 2012, 07:29:29 AM
So, therfor I do believe that, even if one succeed in building a working prototype, it will not last for long.
Cool.

Quote from: Low-Q on March 13, 2012, 07:29:29 AM
As for the pump, the fluid must some how increase in mass for each loop. How is that suppose to happen?
I don't know.

Quote from: Low-Q on March 13, 2012, 07:29:29 AM
As for the money: There is a countless number of over unity inventors that never have the money they need. Isn't that a paradox?


Vidar
Paradox? No.

Cherryman



1. Tell your friend to name the invention/process after himself


2. Make the plans easy freely available all over the internet, send copies to the old media, everywhere around the world, just make sure your name is everywhere on the prints, as watermark, as name for the proces etc etc.


Why?


The wide spreading of ALL the details will safe you from blackmail, harassment, goldiggers  or MIB's , the information is out, so no reason for going after you (except revenge)


The naming all over place will make it hopefully the common name worldwide.  People will copy the thing, improve, whatever, no problem, just try to keep the name on it!
Encourage them even to improve and built, just state everyone is allowed, as long as they use the name.
No legal stuff, no patent, just go! and let it spread.


Now you can try to cash in with marketing just the name and fame, and if it operates as told, you will have world wide fame.   


100% guarantee?  No, but the best, fasted ,wisest thing and human thing to do IMHO and probably also the most profitable.

Just George

Quote from: Cherryman on March 13, 2012, 08:07:48 AM

1. Tell your friend to name the invention/process after himself


2. Make the plans easy freely available all over the internet, send copies to the old media, everywhere around the world, just make sure your name is everywhere on the prints, as watermark, as name for the proces etc etc.


Why?


The wide spreading of ALL the details will safe you from blackmail, harassment, goldiggers  or MIB's , the information is out, so no reason for going after you (except revenge)


The naming all over place will make it hopefully the common name worldwide.  People will copy the thing, improve, whatever, no problem, just try to keep the name on it!
Encourage them even to improve and built, just state everyone is allowed, as long as they use the name.
No legal stuff, no patent, just go! and let is spread.


Now you can try to cash in with marketing just the name and fame, and if it operates as told, you will have world wide fame.   


100% guarantee?  No, but the best, fasted ,wisest thing and human thing to do IMHO and probably also the most profitable.
Pretty good advice, thankyou.

The only thing, though, as I said initially, is that he has been trying to get funding for easily 15 years, and is absolutely invested in getting a patent. Which I guess is understandable - when you've spent that long looking forward to something like that, it's hard to go back on it.