quentron.com

[Bruce_TPU]

That's barely even English.  Interesting position.  According to you, Philip could say "yes, I will have this tomorrow with zero doubt" every day and fail every day for dozens of years and that would say nothing about his technology.  So you don't think all information which is confirming to a result has to contribute to the probability of said result?  Such beliefs make Baby Bayes cry.  I'd love to engage on this issue but it seems like most people here aren't exactly equipped. You know a few points have been raised concerning information theory...you seem pretty mute about them.After post after post from lumen, Bruce_TPU and mrsean2k isn't it a little crazy to pretend they were ignoring me?  What makes you think this is about gaining attention?  I mean Bruce_TPU produced some of the most insubstantial posts in the last 100 on this thread and somehow you think I'm just about trying to get attention?

Hey TROLL,

Leave my name out of your trolling!  Don't be a hater, simply because you don't build anything, and use up good oxygen, finding the strength to type your drivel.

[MileHigh]

Philip's site is now showing a lot of information but now there is no mention of a delivery date in February.  That sounds like the fishing pole is out again to me.

A good analogy for Quentron would be when a kid first goes to an Ikea store.  He sees a model bedroom and when he goes to check out the big flat-screen TV he discovers that it's just a hollow cardboard box with printed paper glued to the surfaces.

In my opinion, and based on what I have seen (or more appropriately not seen) from Philip, is that this whole thing is not real.  The fantastic claims are simply too fantastic and Quentron as a company feels completely virtual.  Like the whole company is just a web site, an email address, and a cell phone number and no more than that.

Time will tell if Philip can add any sense of substance or deliver anything in February.

[e2matrix]

The bigger the potential of a new technology the bigger the propaganda and sabotage attempts become.  It's obvious this thread has become rife with them.   Why would anyone think for a minute that the many muliti-billion and trillion dollar industries that would be affected by such a technology would just lay down and let it run over them?   And why would they try to buy out such a tech when propaganda and sabotage work so well?   Armchair speculators here or paid trolls or maybe those who fear their jobs may disintegrate from such a tech or are just afraid of change?  Why not just wait and see where this technology goes?   Unless you have an agenda of course.   For some that will be like little kids waiting to say 'I told you so'.  For others I suspect it will be the reward of something for trolling.   

[Madebymonkeys]

Philip's site is now showing a lot of information but now there is no mention of a delivery date in February.  That sounds like the fishing pole is out again to me.

A good analogy for Quentron would be when a kid first goes to an Ikea store.  He sees a model bedroom and when he goes to check out the big flat-screen TV he discovers that it's just a hollow cardboard box with printed paper glued to the surfaces.

In my opinion, and based on what I have seen (or more appropriately not seen) from Philip, is that this whole thing is not real.  The fantastic claims are simply too fantastic and Quentron as a company feels completely virtual.  Like the whole company is just a web site, an email address, and a cell phone number and no more than that.

Time will tell if Philip can add any sense of substance or deliver anything in February.

'Unprofessional' is the word you are looking for re the site.
With 'world changing, 100% proven tech worth billions it would have been worth spending a few k on a website....and a lawyer!

Licensing details costing millions talked about on the front page of a website - or anywhere on a website is fishy!
Hey, if something is worth that much at least spend a few quid on the website!

My 2c, feel free to ignore.....or if you are a troll then go and tell me I am wrong, a hater, whatever.

Oh, and talk to some guys who know physics - they will let you know how this one will pan out.

Merry christmas!

Mbm

[MileHigh]

E2matrix:

The bigger the potential of a new technology the bigger the propaganda and sabotage attempts become.  It's obvious this thread has become rife with them.   Why would anyone think for a minute that the many muliti-billion and trillion dollar industries that would be affected by such a technology would just lay down and let it run over them?   And why would they try to buy out such a tech when propaganda and sabotage work so well?   Armchair speculators here or paid trolls or maybe those who fear their jobs may disintegrate from such a tech or are just afraid of change?  Why not just wait and see where this technology goes?   Unless you have an agenda of course.   For some that will be like little kids waiting to say 'I told you so'.  For others I suspect it will be the reward of something for trolling.

I am going to respond to what you said with some detail just once.  Just once in the sense that this response is almost generic because your comments above are almost generic and I have seen similar comments from you many times over applied to all sorts of cases.

Every time a debate comes up you play the paranoia/conspiracy card.  It's like you are a blind cheerleader for almost any free energy technology.  You never ask technical questions and I am pretty sure that you are not a technical person.  You almost never question the motives behind free energy propositions or consider both sides of a claim.  It like you 'consume' free energy propositions without ever considering their merits or considering both views of the proposition.  And I believe you stated that you have been following the free energy scene for more than 20 years!

You live in a paranoid cloak and dagger world of your own imagination.  No matter how ridiculous and how lacking in any credibility the free energy proposition might be, you believe it and are willing to play the MIB card.  After a certain point in time it's almost comical.  You have seen countless free energy propositions outright fail, or whither on the vine, or be exposed as hoaxes, or be exposed as true cons, and yet you still apparently want to believe the vast majority of them are true and any problems may be associated with "paid disinformation agents" or the "MIB."

In this particular case of Quentron there is simply no substance to Phil and his claim.  Have you ever seen any data from him?  Any prototypes?  Have you ever read any comments from Phil where you get the sense that there is a real, tangible organization behind him?

I don't get any feeling whatsoever that there is any substance to Phil and his claim at all.  I just see endless delays.  Recently someone made a comment and he got 'hurt' and pulled his website.  This was a few weeks before he was supposed to 'launch.'  Is that what a real, serious organization is supposed to do, pull their website because of an anonymous comment on a free energy chat board?

Look at the excuse on the web site now:

We had hoped to have completed the work by November but we had an unexpected labour issue that cost us over a month.

I don't recall him saying about a labour issue on his last few 'excuse' postings here on OU.

You need to 'let reality in' E2matrix.  Sometimes free energy propositions are just bunk, and the MIB are not some magical angel that swoops in an 'saves the day' and explains the reason behind every failed free energy proposition.  You need to put your 'critical thinking skills' hat on and start admiring how much better you look with that hat on.

Every time you make a content-less 'MIB' posting you are impugning and denigrating the characters of the people that question the claim.  Yet you never try to debate the merits of the claim yourself.  You are trying to imply that nearly all people that question free energy claims are on the payroll of mysterious and evil government or industrial cartels.  That means that you are trying to imply that people that question free energy claims are evil themselves.  This has to stop and you need to wake up from your stupor.  Blind believing in free energy propositions and blind believing in 'the grand MIB conspiracy' and constantly impugning the characters of people that debate the issues is surely a mind-numbing stupor.

In plain English, enough of the MIB comments and comments like, "The bigger the potential of a new technology the bigger the propaganda and sabotage attempts become.  It's obvious this thread has become rife with them."

It's obvious that you are not thinking.  Start thinking and start respecting people with differing opinions than yours and stop trying to portray them as evil people on the payroll of evil organizations.  After a certain point in time it's simply ridiculous.

MileHigh