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[sarkeizen]

Trying to talk to Sarkeizen is like spitting in the wind.  It is best to ignore.  He is overly impressed with himself and will not listen.

Bruce....seriously?  When have you offered anything but "You must act like X around Philip" or "You are a troll and you better stop talking".  If you want people to listen to you.  You actually need to talk about something.  Just telling people how they should talk seems to get you ignored by just about everyone other than me...and now you're begging for attention from others.

I have stopped reading his posts.  Let's all just move the conversation without him, and if he responds, ignore said response. 

Because this forum is about communication and the sharing of ideas unless you don't like them then Bruce suggests you stick your fingers in your ears.   Yes, I can see how that's the grown-up thing to do.  Thanks Bruce.

Yes, you are correct! It always takes two to argue.

With that I must say : Sarkeizen my friend, all we do is argue anymore, So I'm leaving you.

Arguing is actually pretty useful.  If you could only be less vapid about it.

OK, Rewind:
Do you see any real questions in there?

Yeah because looking at a post which just references a couple of things I talked about earlier is the best way to evaluate the arguments you previously ignored...and then went on to argue about other things - like how posts are not a unit.

...oh and just a point of clarity.  You're essentially saying that an engineer of 30 years can't see anything even in that reference that might challenge Quenco?

[Madebymonkeys]

There is no temperature differential between the two sides. The quenco converts from an isothermal environment.

I do think because the electrons move from one side to the other that it will cause it's own differential and start to cool one side then loose efficiency.
The heat sinks from each side would need to be thermally connected and electrically isolated to maintain the same temperature on each side of the chip as close as possible.

I did some heat modeling on this and if you try to pull 5000W across 1 square centimeter area, there is a large temperature difference even in a solid copper heatsink.

Copper is just not conductive enough to supply ambient temperatures without the chip being 30F to 50F cooler even when trapped in solid copper blocks.
If the electrical junction did induce heat, at least the chip would be running in a more efficient temperature range.

Thanks for that, useful.
With the thermal modelling did you discover a point which determines the max power available given an infinitely large heatsink?
Also, is there any dissipation in the barrier and what's the temp difference on either side of the barrier - assuming the quoted figures for the 1cm^3?

Many thanks
Mbm

[sarkeizen]

So here's a question for you MBM.  Let me know what you think...

Suppose you can prove that no algorithm can exist to accomplish something.  Do you believe that means that no device can be built to accomplish the same goal?

[doublehelix]

So here's a question for you MBM.  Let me know what you think...

Suppose you can prove that no algorithm can exist to accomplish something.  Do you believe that means that no device can be built to accomplish the same goal?

I think that is the most stupid pointless question you have asked so far, and you do set an amazingly high standard in that respect.

[sarkeizen]

I think that is the most stupid pointless question you have asked so far, and you do set an amazingly high standard in that respect.

Because there couldn't possibly be anything about this subject that you don't understand.  Right?