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[profitis]

@mark E yes,a few mm2 of H2-saturated nickel almost breaking my 100microamp meter(was roughly 0.5milliamp there).but thats the thing about videos,they dont prove anything which is why replication is the only way to go.proper replication by experienced electrochemists/physicists.your damn right hydrogen is an energy store,even by itself,no oxidizer present.your suggested test for a kelvin bust is brilliant @mark E,im impressed.one may be able to do this with just infrared cameras or sensitive thermocouples,you,l know you have a winner if the cell-side is the side that always cools down but you have to use the high-power spillover cells for this test.

[MarkE]

@mark E yes,a few mm2 of H2-saturated nickel almost breaking my 100microamp meter(was roughly 0.5milliamp there).but thats the thing about videos,they dont prove anything which is why replication is the only way to go.proper replication by experienced electrochemists/physicists.your damn right hydrogen is an energy store,even by itself,no oxidizer present.your suggested test for a kelvin bust is brilliant @mark E,im impressed.one may be able to do this with just infrared cameras or sensitive thermocouples,you,l know you have a winner if the cell-side is the side that always cools down but you have to use the high-power spillover cells for this test.

The one minute video showed that there was energy stored in the cell.  It did not establish that the cell was run down and subsequently recharged.

It is well known that platinum group metals have a high affinity for hydrogen.  That fact is relied upon extensively in the petroleum industry.  It does not change the fact that it takes energy to break the chemical bonds that bind hydrogen atoms in other molecules so that one ends up with molecular hydrogen.  If one has a battery that "recharges" using molecular hydrogen, then one has a device that runs down as it consumes the molecular hydrogen.

A Dewar flask would not be very effective if one could read the internal temperature from the outside with an IR camera.  Fortunately, thermocouples and thermistors are widely available that will perform the temperature sense function.

[profitis]

sarkeizen sarkeizen,mr sarkeizen, i have already placed a diagram up for you of the mentioned wikipedia device.the temperature is 25celcius,electrolyte concentration 1m h2so4.now you have all the specs,now whats your objection going to be eyyy... Anything but kelvin rule eyyy...

[sarkeizen]

i have already placed a diagram up for you

Can I take that to mean that virtually every textbook does not contain sufficient information to necessitate the existence of eternal batteries?

[profitis]

@mark E.the one minute video didnt show the hidden magnets and watch-battery and undercarpet cable either,whats a video really worth to those who dont want to replicate?that video was just intended to show its potential power/unit area at the top of its repeatable discharge curve,thats why i didnt hold the wires down too long.its a scary amount of power for a concentration cell but understandable when you think of the effective concentration difference of hydrogen in platinum group metal surfaces(including nickel) compared to silver,gold which hardly adsorb any.its equivalent to thousands atmospheres pressure difference in concentration between the surfaces and thats the driving force for hydrogen spillover between the two electrodes and hydrogen spillover in general.atomic hydrogen shifting electrochemicaly from anode to cathode.recombination occuring on the cathode at a rate x.