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electrolysys with horizontal plates

Started by Walter Hofmann, July 02, 2006, 03:56:31 PM

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Walter Hofmann

Quote from: mark australia on July 02, 2006, 04:42:55 PM
Any chance of a photo as this might be worth experimenting on. I have looked at using a horizontal stainless steel mesh..but never got around to it . Might do so Now.
Also are you plusing the current or is it direct draw of the battery.
Kind Regards
Mark
hi mark,
yes as soon as I have put it back to action I will make some picture. What I did find with mesh in vertical was that the bubbles was only coming from the edge ends never from the middle and as they try to rise they seem to be catched back to the center. Esspecially with solid plate versions you can see that the most come from the bottom edges never out of the middle.my intend actually was to give the bubbles a free way to rise, but instead surprisingly I expierenced that the wole mesh grid releases bubbles now which looks like a realy thick mist. The two cell plates are on top of each other and in series and the top two plates are a bit smaler then the previous what means it looks like a little pyramid from the side, what would give the bubbles a free way if they only come from the edges ,to rise. The top plate ( negative) from the bottom cell is directly connected to the bottom plate of the top cell, with a distance of around 1 inch what makes the two cells in series. I will try to make a new cell with ether three or maby four such assambles to see if the output gets higher.
No I am not so far to pulse the current, need to put the elctronic together.
greetings
walt

wizkycho

Hi Walter !

I recently made movie with 25 ss plates 4.5V and drawn 33Amps, vertical assembly.
(Harti said he will compress movie and post it but suppose he didn't had time).
Allso noticed that looks like bubbles are formed only at the top of the vertical cell.

What are the numbers voltage and amperes with mesh type and reacting surface ?
From the description I did not quite understand how was horizontal assembly made ?

I made two of such cells, found and made a box, and for now preparing for instalation
in my car as hydrogen-oxygen boost.

Igor Knitel

hartiberlin

Hi Igor,
yes, sorry, I am a bit in a hurry.
Have the video still at home on my harddisk.
Am not currently at home.
Will do this still this week.
Stay tuned.
Thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Walter Hofmann

Quote from: wizkycho on July 03, 2006, 05:51:57 AM
Hi Walter !

I recently made movie with 25 ss plates 4.5V and drawn 33Amps, vertical assembly.
(Harti said he will compress movie and post it but suppose he didn't had time).
Allso noticed that looks like bubbles are formed only at the top of the vertical cell.

What are the numbers voltage and amperes with mesh type and reacting surface ?
From the description I did not quite understand how was horizontal assembly made ?

I made two of such cells, found and made a box, and for now preparing for instalation
in my car as hydrogen-oxygen boost.

Igor Knitel

Hi Igor,
I use 12V auto batterie and like I posted it draws around 12 to 13 Amp. the mesh type is 316L 008X008 S0320, what is 8X8 mesh per inches and 0.032 Inch diameter, the total reacting surface of both cells is 13 sq inches, 3x3 inches at the bottom and 2x2 inches the top. My observation was that the bubbles actually forme at the bottom and side edge and then rising to the top where some of it will be catched from the center of the plates what means only about 1/3 finally make it to the top.
the assembly is pretty easy I cut the 3x3 inch left a strip of about 1 inch longer on one side and only 1 inch on the other where the 2x2 inch follos the other was cut pretty much the same way just instead the long strip on the 3x3 it is on the 2x2. then I bend the 1 inch long strip that the center from the 2x2 is about the same location as the 3x3 then the longstrips are bend up. the 3x3 with the long strip ( positive) are at the bottom then the other is the top from the bottom cell and the bottom from the top cell and the 2x2 with the long strip is the top and gos to the negative. the both cells individually are screwed together with a nylon screw in a distance of about 1/16 and the distance to the top cell is about 1 inch.
I will post a picture there is better to see how it is aasembled.
greetings
walt

Walter Hofmann

hi all,
I need to correct my setup description, the plates are not in series I made a mistake it is just that the top plate from the bottom cell is connected to the bottom plate of the top cell but they are actually like paralell, I guess, not sure about this.
The biggest probleme is how to measure the gas output, if somebody can help I would be thankfull.
greetings
walt