Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video

[Magluvin]

T-1000:

I know that is your understanding and a lot of people believe that, but in fact it's not true.

That's also another misunderstanding.

There are some people around here that may be able to help you and explain this to you.

Also, please note that it can be very difficult to describe schematic diagrams in text.  A simple diagram is worth 1000 words!

MileHigh

Lol  Typical MH. Everyone is wrong, yet no real explanation of why. Just , as above, " not true" and "misunderstanding" and "Others here can show you" (passing the buck) and discounting T-1000's words for lack of a picture. This isnt Playboy magazine.  I understand what T-1000 is saying, yet you require more from him.
I know your game MH.

Mags

[MileHigh]

Mags:

It's no game.  You know the thread, we went though it on our.com and I thought that you "got it."

if you have 2 generator coils winded on top 2 driving coils and try attach single diode to each when other side of those coils are common ground, when you try to catch BEMF spikes ant rectify them the diodes do not work as intended and act as short wire for BEMF... So you get current between 2 diodes cathodes. I tried this setup once more in my rewinded stepper mottor what got now generator coils on top of driving coils and clearly can see this effect.

Perhaps you can explain what he means.

MileHigh

[Magluvin]

Mags:

It's no game.  You know the thread, we went though it on our.com and I thought that you "got it."

Perhaps you can explain what he means.

MileHigh

I know what you are getting at MH
People refer to the spikes as a voltage source and should be calling it a current source.

But it is none the less EMF( bemf, cemf, reverse emf, or just emf) which describes Voltage, pressure, potential difference..Just because the field collapse is the motive for current to flow, doesnt mean that voltage does not exist at the leads of the coil when the collapse is happening. The measured amount of voltage will depend on the load it is provided to. Even a DVM is a load across an open coil with a very high ohm "load", thus a high result of voltage read. A voltage meter with a higher internal ohms will read a higher voltage that another meter with a lower internal ohms.

If we have a coil collapse, there is a force of potential created across the ends of that coil. Voltage is a potential difference of electric pressures between 2 points.

To say that claiming of a specific high voltage caused by field collapse is incorrect is not totally true.

And to specify a peak voltage from the collapse can have a specific peak value if the input is consistent, is not necessarily incorrect. In some cases a coils field collapse could cause thousands of volts that can jump across open air distances. And some wont jump across a 10th of a millimeter. Just because it is a current source, doesnt mean that a number in terms of Voltage peaks cannot be applied.

So I dont have much of a problem with describing the output of a coil field collapse as a high or very high voltage number. Even if it is very temporary, there is a number in voltage that can be applied to the description of the output. Voltage does not have to be constant to be described in numbers.

In the case of what T-1000 is speaking of, It sounds like he is seeing the diodes break down reversed biased. The voltage pressure peaks due to the collapse current can breach the diodes peak inverse voltage level, as the coil doesnt see a load till its voltage potential reaches that level.

Mags

[MileHigh]

Mags:

You got it for sure.  My issue was with this, "those pulses act differently than conventional electricity."  I would hope that more people get to understand that the voltage pulses or spikes are 100% conventional electricity in action as per your explanation.  I think that it's important to get people to understand that.  People in leadership positions that claim that is is "unconventional electricity"  could be promoting those ideas to take advantage of people.  I tried teaching this material and for the most part failed.  Perhaps others will be much more successful at teaching than me.

In the same vein I would assume that you would agree that the statement, "The BEMF pulses are much higher voltage than initially (up to 10-20 times) with very low current usually" is something that is misunderstood.  I can't tell you how many times I have read variations on that when you know that there is a tangible current behind the high voltage spikes and in fact the root cause for the high voltage itself is the current.

I can only hope that some sort of critical mass would take place among the experimenters so that the correct understanding is promoted and the "old wives' tales" are dismissed outright.  I just know that I am not the person to do it and I just made the comment once in this thread.

In sense I don't know why you gave me a hard time when you knew exactly what I was referring to.  I was just leaving the door open for somebody to correct him because I have 'retired' from that.

MileHigh

[Magluvin]

Well MH, sometimes I get frustrated with your posts. Like the one to t-1000, only comments as to what is right and wrong, but without explanation to accommodate your accusation. When in the post above, you clearly say that my explanation is correct, yet you would not put it out there in complete as I did.

I would appreciate your posts a great deal more if you were to clear up your convictions as you divvy them out. Not everyone is like me to come and clean up the mess, so that your simple comments are not taken lightly and just assumed correct.

All meant in the nicest way possible. ;]

You say you want people to learn from what you say. Well, teach then. Bust out the goods. You clearly know this stuff. And you post enough that I think more of it can have some substance.

Ok, I gota git to my shop to put some things together then back to the bench.

Mags