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Larskro's magnet motor video was a fake - he admits on second video

Started by jeffc, April 11, 2012, 12:45:49 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: MileHigh on April 18, 2012, 12:27:19 AM


When the reed switch shorts and the battery is connected then it's in series with whatever EMF is being induced in the coil from the passing magnets.  So if the EMF induced by the passing magnets is larger than the battery voltage then you should still be able to get the difference in LED intensities.  So you are jumping the gun in your analysis.



M, are you saying that the magnet passing the coil in lars vid, even at the most rpm we have seen in the vids, is generating more voltage than the batteries 1.2v? man, you havnt ever done this stuff have you. Even as you say Im jumping guns with my questioning of Lasr setup, you pull out that bag of crap?

M, lets say that Lars scop shot is real, of the battery powered motor. Can you describe each level of the trace for us please, and specifically show us the portion of the trace that shows ordinary magnet/coil generation vs when the reed closes and opens?  Then show us where you see that the generation( your quote above "So if the EMF induced by the passing magnets is larger than the battery voltage") is higher than the battery voltage????????  HA!  Who is jumping guns now?  Wow dude. You should retire. 8)

Mags

Magluvin

Where did ya go MH?  Im dying to read your response before I go to sleep.
You were just here.

Oh well, maybe you need until tomorrow to think your way out of this one. Ill give you that. Try a vitamin B complex  It helps to keep the footy taste out of the mouth.   ;)

Mags

garrypm

Hi Mags,

I can confirm from my own setup that the scope shot provided by L is authentic.

Identical setup and absolutely identical waveform - running from 2 x 1.3v Li-on rechargeables.

Thanks, Garry

p.s. if you need pics, let me know.

Magluvin

Hey Gary

Even though I say that I doubt things, I also have thoughts that everything might be as told. I just cant say for sure. If I did it wouldnt be the truth for sure, one way or the other, if ya know what I mean.

I fully can say that the scope shot is very possibly of the motor that is presented with a battery. Yes.
But if investigating this with so many issues, should I just accept the pic of a lone scope shot as if it IS the actual battery motor in vid 1 and 2 that produced that shot? I cant say for sure because I was not there. 

So far it is hear say, to the Nth degree.

Nobody has seen the battery in the coil except for Lars. Fact
He wont open to show us  Fact
He refuses to measure an led or the reed(open) to show the 1.2v within the non running motor Fact
Produces a drawing of the circuit in vid 2, and then makes a correction of it in vid 3. And then, in post on vid 3, claims I have him doubting either schematic because I told him that the first circuit works, and I asked why he changed it.  Fact

He cant remember after building 2 identical coils if the resistor was soldered to the tip+ or the side- or if the coil was here or there either  Fact. 

Gary. Do you remember these connections on your build?   ;)   Will you remember a month from now? Year? ;)

Oh well. But Im doing test runs tomorrow on the non battery setup. Just coil, reed, led and rotor. Im setting up 2 reed assy's one just a single and the other a dual reed in series. one next to the other.
This will shorten the close timing compared to a single reed. You can get super short pulses this way. One closes then the other closes ON then the first opens OFF.

Please put up some pics. Ill put some up also.  ;] Show and tell   

Mags