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6 Battery Tesla Switch Circuit Mosfet Solid State - Updated 06 - 06 - 2012

Started by BediniBattery, June 06, 2012, 09:26:31 PM

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BediniBattery


This is an update to the following post -  6 Battery Tesla Switch - Power Mosfet Circuit - Uses No Schottky Power Diodes


Download the latest circuit diagrams, schematics & explainations all in one zip file.

- http://www.mediafire.com/?itj2dll96tzy2 -

There are only 4 circuit diagrams, which have been simplified, easy to follow.

A PCB has almost been designed so I will have some results in a few weeks.



Qwert

@BediniBattery,
below is a quote from PesWiki about a South African company invention which uses the Tesla Switch
http://pesn.com/2012/03/28/9602066_S_Africa_Company_Discovers_Problems_in_Alpha_Testing_their_Fuel_Free_Generator/
Does your improvement resolve the problem mentioned in this quote?
Quote
The South Africa company, which has developed the 5 kilowatt Fuel Free Generator, has discovered that the batteries' longevity is significantly effected by the process.

gotoluc

Hello BediniBattery,

thank you for the very nice circuit work you have done.

A video demo of your functioning circuit with test data would be required to get replicators interested.

Sorry!... that's just how it is

Luc

mscoffman

@Qwert,

I am not associated with BediniBattery and he can write anything
he wants in reply to your question, but here is my take on it;

From pictures the SA company seemed to use a physically small
Gel-cell battery with *multiple batteries in the same plastic pack*.
This allowed for them to have a physically compact final unit
and a neat design to handle redundancy of the batteries.

Except â€" if you know anything about acid/lead storage batteries,
you know that this is not the right way to go for a unit designed
to generate continuous electrical power. As the batteries will
have to have continuous operations at a high power densities.
Power as watts per cubic inch of given battery volume.
Also Gel-cell technology especially is not the right way to go
for this use.

In acid lead batteries physical robustness and large size are
hallmarks of large power handling capacity. So problems with
the SA design should be expected…And the expected solution
would be much more robust battery and therefore less likely
to fit in a diminutive physical arrangement. But this would
most likely not have fit into what the SA company wanted
to see in terms of system size.

If one wants this capability most likely one could solve
the energy problems by using deep-cycle discharge batteries
often used in marine trolling or lift truck operations.

---

After having said this;

I take exception to part of your question in that it is not likely from
the description in the SA post that their unit is actually a simple tesla
switch.
   
--- 
I was going to write a detailed post about what I think is missing from BediniBattery’s
system design for use as a long term power generation system (if it works?).

(1)That is one microcontrol processor for long term system configuration
of this unit. This could also easily indicate the overunity energy state of the
system too.

(2)Using multiple CMOS NE555 and 75L05 low power positive 5volt regulators to
do a voltage to frequency converter circuit for each battery with an AC multiplexer
to allow the microcontroller to have instant isolated access to the approximate voltage
of all batteries. This Tesla Switch does not use HV pulses, which is a boon to this
form of voltage readout.

(3) Motor powered high current relay switches to allow the microcontroller to
be able to reconfigure the six batteries to swap positions between the driver
and recharge positions to control battery wear.  These could be purpose
constructed.

(4) A microcontroller controlled load resistor to allow for the breakthrough
of the float-voltage on batteries that have just been charged and to allow
the controlled discharge for energy for determining overunity status.

---

So I think that you would agree that with the above two items this should answer
your question positively.

:S:MarkSCoffman

BediniBattery


I would like to point out to everybody that nobody is funding or supporting me to build this overunity experiment.

I am on a tight budget & have to keep things as simple as possible.

I am building the circuit to prove one way or another, whether this circuit does actually provide free energy, for constant use.

As far as the choice of batteries to test is concerned, there are many different lead acid batteries, Gel Cells, Car Batteries, 2 volt batteries, 6 volt, 12 volt also NiMH or other types of home made battery.

You would have to set the maximum charge voltage by changing one of the zener diodes, slowing the switching speed when they get fully charged.

The load current does not need to be excessive for overunity to be achieved, but rather tailered to the size of batteries you are using.
I will be testing small batteries as well as large batteries to see what happens with different loads.


The 4N25 works best around 270 hz, but after that it begins to introduce dead time, where non of the mosfets are turned on.
If a faster switching speed is required, look for a faster opto isolator having a similar specification.
1Khz is achieveable but there is a small amount of dead time, which may or may not make any difference.

Some of you want to check the voltage of one of the 6 batteries while the circuit is running.

3 of the batteries are wired in series, for between 1 to 10 milliseconds, so you could measure the series voltage by storing it in a capacitor.

Most likely you would get an average of the 6 batteries doing it this way.

3 of the batteries are wired in parallel, so you can measure the parallel voltage, but again you can only measure the average voltage of all 6 batteries.

If you wanted to measure each battery seperately, you would have to turn off all of the mosfets & stop the circuit operating.
You can measure the batteries seperately after you have run the circuit for a few hours, if they are still charged, the circuit works.

The circuit has been constructed using analogue components, since these are cheap & easy to get hold of.
I don't understand why you would want to use a microcontroller & use relays to switch the batteries, this doesn't make sense.


If you are unsure about whether you are getting overunity, think about this,

If the batteries stay charged while you are discharging 30 amps through the load, & each of the 6 batteries only receives 10 amps charging current, where does the 20 amps free energy come from.

Each of the 6 batteries has to discharge 3 times as much current as they receive during the charging process.

The 6 battery tesla switch has to work much harder than the 4 battery tesla switch to achieve overunity.
This particular circuit wasn't patented & it was never constructed using modern components as far as I can tell.

I have nothing to do with the South African company who are doing their own free energy thing.
I cannot comment on how they use or abuse their batteries.
Batteries do not last forever, a few years if you are lucky.


Quote from: mscoffman on June 07, 2012, 03:14:30 PM
@Qwert,

I was going to write a detailed post about what I think is missing from BediniBattery’s
system design for use as a long term power generation system (if it works?).

(1)That is one microcontrol processor for long term system configuration
of this unit. This could also easily indicate the overunity energy state of the
system too.

(2)Using multiple CMOS NE555 and 75L05 low power positive 5volt regulators to
do a voltage to frequency converter circuit for each battery with an AC multiplexer
to allow the microcontroller to have instant isolated access to the approximate voltage
of all batteries. This Tesla Switch does not use HV pulses, which is a boon to this
form of voltage readout.

(3) Motor powered high current relay switches to allow the microcontroller to
be able to reconfigure the six batteries to swap positions between the driver
and recharge positions to control battery wear.  These could be purpose
constructed.

(4) A microcontroller controlled load resistor to allow for the breakthrough
of the float-voltage on batteries that have just been charged and to allow
the controlled discharge for energy for determining overunity status.

---

:S:MarkSCoffman