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Overunity Machines Forum



Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

Started by hartiberlin, July 12, 2006, 10:42:03 AM

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magnetman12003

Here is the Levitated Pencil driver thought.

Tom

magnetman12003

Hi mramos,

As I see it whatever two ring magnets you use for the Base and belt magnet there will be a balancing act.  Both belt pullys or bearings are made from non ferrous non magnetic material. The  long belt should have a good friction surface for the belt magnet to track on while turning.

The magnetic force between the Belt magnet and the Base magnet should be great enough to keep the Belt magnet in position as illustrated but also be "EXACTLY" adjusted wheras the Belt magnet just starts to turn from the force of gravity pulling it downwards.   You should have an "IN PLACE" rotating movement of the BELT magnet as all its rotating sides are the same and present no magnetic changes as far as the fixed base ring magnet looking at it is concerned.

This Belt magnet now should rotate in place and transmit power to the belt to drive the Large levitated pencil setup we described before. 

If that pencil setup was made on a grand scale there will be a huge torque developed in a short time due to the heavy rotating magnet rings in its own makeup.   That action transmitted back through the belt will only drive the "BELT" magnet to turn faster and faster.

I have not yet constructed this idea so I dont know if it will work...

If it does however it might just run away and blow up as there is no speed control mechanism in place.   The Belt and Base magnet rings should attract one another as mentioned and illustrated.  Personally I cant see a reason why it will not work--- I may be wrong---    Be carefull if you try it.   

Tom

magnetman12003

Hi All,

The top pully shown is powering a large levitated pencil setup which will generate lots of torque when spinning.  I illustrated an end of pencil view that the top pulley is driving. A large ring magnet is around it.  In what I plan to build my so called "pencil shaft" alone will be 1.75 inches in diameter.  The ring magnets will have 4.5 inch diameters.    I hope this clears that up.   


Dont forget that the belt and base magnets have to be very carefully adjusted so that the force of gravity on the belt magnet is just a little less than the magnetic forces keeping the magnets bonded together. The heavier the magnets the more force produced.  Proper magnetic bonding should allow the belt magnet to spin in place and never fall off the belt which it now is driving.                         

Tom

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magnetman12003

Hi all,

Picture what Sean just made a movie of. Make something like this on a large scale so when it does rotate it will do so for a long time.  Using larger ring magnets will produce a lot of torque when brought up to speed.


The above will not power itself so think of a long, wide, flat belt wrapped around the midpoint of this levitated and "raised" device.    The "lower" end of the long belt will wrap around an idler pullly. 

On top of the "inclined" belt will be placed a large ring magnet with a good traction surface on its outer circumference.  The magnet will most certainly try to roll down the belt and fall off.  As the magnet rolls down the belt it produces an equal and
opposite force which turns the belt.   The belt in turn will spin the levitated "pencil" device.

But wait-- We dont want the belt magnet to fall off the inclined belt so we put another ring magnet directly below the belt ( fixed base magnet) that will ATTRACT the top belt magnet and hold it in place so it will not roll down the belt and drop off.

By carefully adjusting the distance between both magnets at some point the top belt magnet will start to roll but should - roll in place - as the gravitational force pulling it down the belt is just not enough to overcome the magnetic attraction forces between the magnets.  THE BELT MAGNET AT THAT POINT TURNS/DRIVES THE BELT CONTINUOSLY.  When the proper adjustment point is reached the base magnet must be secured so it does not move.   Keep these facts in mind-- If you have a 10 pound magnet on the belt it will still weigh 10 pounds as no weight is lost as its not magnetically "suspending".   This whole idea is like thinking of a man on a treadmill - running feet going nowhere - BUT THE BELT TURNS. 

Now we hopefully can power the large pencil setup and when it gets spinning faster and faster it should also drive the belt faster and faster.  The power source and the levitated setup compliment each other.  I will worry about speed controll later.   If it works or even blows up I will be happy.

Is this idea wild or not?  I am buying items right now to give it a go.  Working on the inclined ""conveyer"" belt right now.    Tom