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Overunity Machines Forum



Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

Started by hartiberlin, July 12, 2006, 10:42:03 AM

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magnetman12003

A new update of how and why is coming.   

Tom



magnetman12003

Hi All,

This is basically the same setup us above but uses sprockets and roller chain to insure the ring magnet riding on top the chain does not slip.   A side and top view is illustrated.  Tom

magnetman12003

Here is a view looking down.   Tom

tropes

Hi Tom
I don't really think you want to hear what I have to say. By removing the axle ( change from the Minato group drawing), you are now allowing the rolling magnet to be attracted to the  stationary magnet. There is nothing holding it in place. If you use an axle to hold it in place , it will not rotate. Sorry Tom, either way, it does not work.
Peter

magnetman12003

Hi Peter,

On all my illustrations I removed the center axle entirely from the large ring magnet riding on top of the roller chain. It seemed to confuse and was not important at all except to index the center point of the magnet while its rolling.  There are large sprockets mounted on each side of this wide heavy magnet.

Having said that -- The point is I want the ENTIRE roller chain magnet to be attracted to the stationary magnet.   Its free now to roll that way with absolutely NOTHING in its way to stop it.   I just did that on a roller chain stretched out on the floor and IT WORKS. 

I am now waiting on 4 sprockets to mount the chain as you see in the illustration.

The ring magnet riding the top of the chain will ride its lenght to get to the stationary magnet that is attracting it.  I already proved that above.  I also know it will drag the chain itself with it in that direction as its lower sprocket teeth will dig into the chain for traction.


With the ratchet mechanism mounted on one of the sprocket axles as illustrated the chain belt can now move only one way. And thats the way you select with the ratchet mechanism.

We dont want the chain belt to move in the direction the roller belt magnet wants to head so we block the belt from moving that way with the ratchet mechanism.  THE CHAIN BELT IS ENTIRELY FREE TO MOVE IN THE OTHER DIRECTION HOWEVER.

So the chain belt riding ring magnet starts to roll the belt towards the stationary magnet.

Remember as this magnet rolls in one direction it has to FORCE ( Newtons third law) the belt chain under it in the other direction  The belt chain is free to turn that direction and does.  Meanwhile all this time however there is the force of attraction trying to pull " BOTH TRACK AND THE RING MAGNET" riding the track to the fixed ring magnet. 

The track chain belt itself is blocked from traveling that direction (by the ratchet mechanism) so what is left is the ring magnet riding on top of the track chain "rotating in place".  The ring magnet "CAN" rotate in the direction the track is free to tun in.

Why dont you think it will work the way I described?    I am always open for comments positive or negative.   Its a learning curve.     Tom