Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower

[ariovaldo]

That is incorrect they were all shown not to have overunity and all suffered from measurement errors. the Overunity effect was from stored energy or the flywheel effect.
Kind Regards
Mark

Ok. As an old guy with engineering background I built that for funny and also to keep my mind working. In fact I didn't expected and I didn't see any energy leftover, but as a curious human being  I built anyway and I confess that I learned a lot.
I'm not too old to try and not dumb to learn.

[tinman]

Dear Mark.

Is it me or do you contradict yourself ?    "the Overunity effect was from stored energy or the flywheel effect"

Could you elucidate please?

Cheers Grum.

Hi Grum
I believe Mark is refering to the missunderstanding by the builder. Chas see's his 750 watt motor running a 2000 watt drop saw,and thinks he has an overunity machine. But what he(and many others) fail to take into account is that the stored energy within the flywheel is becomeing less and less-the flywheel is slowing down,while the prime mover has to work harder to keep the flywheel up to speed.

If it take's 10 000 joule's of energy to get the flywheel up to 1000rpm,then there is only 10 000 joules of energy avaliable in that flywheel(minus friction losses)-never more. Every device runs at unity if all energy outputs are taken into account-as energy cannot be created or destroyed.

[Farmhand]

Hi Grum
I believe Mark is refering to the missunderstanding by the builder. Chas see's his 750 watt motor running a 2000 watt drop saw,and thinks he has an overunity machine. But what he(and many others) fail to take into account is that the stored energy within the flywheel is becomeing less and less-the flywheel is slowing down,while the prime mover has to work harder to keep the flywheel up to speed.

If it take's 10 000 joule's of energy to get the flywheel up to 1000rpm,then there is only 10 000 joules of energy avaliable in that flywheel(minus friction losses)-never more. Every device runs at unity if all energy outputs are taken into account-as energy cannot be created or destroyed.

Most definitely on the part I made bold, When all inputs, losses and outputs are considered we must have unity or something must be created from nothing or destroyed from existence which will not happen.

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[a.king21]

Tinman:  How do you know energy cannot be created or destroyed?

[Farmhand]

I can't speak for Tinman, But the way I see it to create energy would require something to be added to the Universe, but since the Universe is everything, there is nowhere or nothing from which anything else can come. To destroy energy would be to remove something from existence to somewhere else that does not exist.

The Universe is everything, there is nothing outside or other than the Universe, Rather than use the word Universe we could just say "everything that exists".

It's not possible to get something from a place that does not exist in order to add it to the Universe.

Saying you can "create" energy is like saying you are like a God. If God is real, God is within the Universe or within everything that exists. There is nowhere else.

When we think on it enough we come to a point where we realize that actual infinity is incomprehensible. How to visualize infinity. At some point we must realize that as best we can understand everything is already in existence and always was, negating time as a real thing. Time is how we define a period of existence. Existence is eternal.

If one was to actually create energy from nothing then something would be added (from nowhere/non existence) to everything that already exists. Obviously an impossibility. Hence it is Law as I see it.

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Just because we may not be aware of a certain "energy" or thing or place does not mean it is not in existence. Things don't come into existence as we become aware of them.
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