Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .

[lumen]

The problem with the water pump idea is that any water displaced by the moving weight is exactly the same as the movement of the weight.
So no matter how small you break the steps down, it's still the same and will not work.

[johnny874]

   lumen,
you got it half right. the water being movec would be about one half the movement of the weight. the other half of the movement of the weight would be realized in the rotation of the wheel.

             Johnny

[christo4_99]

If I start another thread are you gonna do the same thing again or can you restrain your ME ME ME ME ME ness ?

[lumen]

I never thought gravity wheels could work but the story of Bessler is quite convincing for a story. Then I found this simple design that must work and could possibly be how Bessler did it!
Christo,
Tell us what your thinking.

[christo4_99]

I will not bore anyone with what I'm thinking...I will SHOW the world what I am THINKING !  Where everyone else ( except for Bessler ) has failed I will succeed and we will see who has made a career out of failure and leading others into nothing . I will gladly publish the reasons Bessler attributed his success to God ( and not just simple mechanics or himself ). You will be able to either build or purchase this device . I still have not built anything but my understanding of the device is complete ... and I have most of the materials right here at home .

P.S. I'm just adding this for S&G . Because regardless of the giant brains over at BW forum , I being considered a newb and a troll myself will prove them all to be of inferior insight and/or intellect and in due time (less than ten years!) .
Kaine aka tasier79 @ BW forum wrote to johnny874 :
Dear troll

Although you believe you have some personal gift and understanding of Besslers wheel, let me assure you that you do not. Although your infantile attempts at solving this problem are expected from a beginner, most  beginners wouldn't be delusional enough to believe that they alone have a unique understanding of gravity that defies the laws of physics.
Whatever your personal grievances you believe you have with certain well respected members of this forum exist only in your head. You are your own worst enemy.
Seek help
Yours Sincerely
Kaine

Me again: This is a typical  "holier than thou and I'm a good judge " attitude expressed in various ways by nearly everyone on that forum . What they really hope for ( in their stale and desperate souls ) is that some newb WILL (because they are fresh out of ideas)  come along and out of a need to fit in will dump the simple and ingenious design ( or at least some semblance of it ) into their laps . I really would much rather sleep with dogs and fleas than try to fit in with that group of guys . I encourage anyone to not even try , all of the top slots are taken by the most anal retentive persons one could imagine .