Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out

[Jack Noskills]

wattsup, did you connect the MOT as I have described ? If not, it is worth a try. The thing is that when current starts to flow, the impedance is lowered in the coils and they create more current. If you measure idle power of one secondary MOT coil and it is flat zero only then it does not work. Some leakage current is needed, but what is the threshold when it still works I cannot say. Could be that microamps are needed, or milliamps. I say it is well worth a try.

[wattsup]

@JN

To try that out with MOT secondaries in 1:1 ratio mode, you will need four identical "beheaded" MOTs. Since most MOTs have the primary on top of the secondary, you will have to remove all the coils on two of them, then remove the primary of the other two in order to then add the two free secondaries. That is a tremendous amount of work right there chock full of risk of ruining the coils in the process.

Then you have to realize that the MOT lamination bulkiness was not designed by chance. In a world were every penny counts, that lamination was designed to move power from the primary of much fewer turns to the secondary of incredible amount of turns and produce the output that it is supposed to produce. Now if the primary is a secondary coil on that same lamination, I fear it will never be able to effect the bulky nature of those laminations and the result will be almost nil, regardless of the connection method.

While we are now looking at Metglass or other high perm cores that would be highly reactive to the slightest impress, working with a MOT lamination would be like teaching a quadriplegic to walk.

From all the tests I have done on your circuit diagram, I think the best way will be with Metglass toroidal cores.

@penno64

I had put that up in 2008 here about midway through this post
http://www.overunity.com/4728/is-lindsays-sm-a-fraud/msg132324/#msg132324

I said relays but I was using 3-way reed contacts that you use for home alarm door/window contacts. Basically you have NC/NO on each reed contacts on there that you pass the primary through the opposite side. When one coil is charged it pulls in the reed to connect power (12 volt battery or other) to the other coil that then connects power to the first coil, etc. There is a link there to another thread that shows a basic diagram.

But I did not want to suggest this to push you away from this thread at all. Just that there are many ways to play around with a beheaded MOT.

Mainly, I would really have liked to see Thane Heins try one of these in his rotating magnet wheel experiments using the MOT as an output coil where the primary side that receives the close magnet rotation is shorted out to produce output on the high voltage secondary. That would have been a good test with something that is easilly accessible to anyone.

wattsup

[JouleSeeker]

   Jack - have you considered adding an earth GROUND to the circuit?  I'm seeing this as a way to allow charge to flow into and out of the circuit.  Conservation of charge seems to be strictly required; hope this helps.

[wattsup]

   Jack - have you considered adding an earth GROUND to the circuit?  I'm seeing this as a way to allow charge to flow into the circuit.  Conservation of charge seems to be strictly required; hope this helps.

@JS

I had been thinking the same thing for days now but have not mustered the courage to try it, fearing a major short and system wide burn out. lol

But come to think of it, I think I mentioned this before that when the standard circuit was running and the bulb was lit at its regular load position, I had scoped each side of the load and found that one side was a good four times higher in voltage then the other side of the load. That seems rather unorthodox for an AC output that should be alternating at the same level from both sides. So maybe the side with the lower output can receive the ground negative.

I am just scared of trying it because the mains line has some good amperage there that could shoot up real fast.

wattsup

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