My Invention

[johnny874]

  @Newton II et al,
With "new" idea's, it might take a little time considering to understand how a system can effect
changes within itself.
The attached drawing shows a basic outline of values in Mr. Miilkocic's works. What I realized is
that by catching the weight in it's inner position, it's relative mass would be calculated from where
it is suspended. It is when it is lifted at this point that it's motion is increased above it's own potential.
And since the work being done by the opposing weight is less than it's potential relative to the fulcrum
of the cross beam, it would have sufficient energy to perform the work necessary to realize overunity.
The diagram in the attachment shows how calculating the two stresses on a swinging weight change it's
potential within Mr. Milkovic's system. Point A is 30 degrees beyond the vertical center line of the fulcrum.
The way to understand it's approximate values would be to add 0.500 plus 0.866, the sine and cosine of 30
degrees. Then when 0.500 is divided by 1.366, the value is approximately 0.366.
This would mean that a 100 pound weight swinging to the left would have an additional force of 36 pounds
for a total force of 136 pounds. And when it swings inward ( to the right), it's force would be about 100 minus
36 which is about 64 pounds of resitence to the opposing weight.
This is something that could be verified with basic tests. The reason Mr. Milkovic was not able to achieve
overunity status is not lifting the weight by using a mechanism operated by the opposing side. After all, when the
weight swings inward, it is closer to the fulcrum of the cross beam meaning it woud have a lesser effect on the
cross beam than the opposing weight.
And with point C, .707 plus .707 equal 1.414 of which .707 is 50% or 1/2. This simple emans a weight would apply
it's force equally in two different directions. And at 30 degrees (points A and B), then the amount of force in either
direction changes based on the relationship between the sine and cosine.
So do I think it will work ? I think it would be one of the simplest demonstrations that can work and where the math
behind it could be understood.

                                                                                                                         Jim

p.s. And if it made a few million for charity, don't think I'd have a problem with that.

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[TinselKoala]

Let me jump in here and correct one major misconception:

A water wheel does NOT work by extracting energy from gravity!!

A water wheel is a SOLAR POWERED device. Think carefully about this. 

The water wheel works because there is a bunch of water, above the wheel somewhere, flowing downwards DUE TO GRAVITY, past and through the wheel, turning it. But how did the water get up there to be pulled down by gravity in the first place? This is where the energy comes from.

The energy to turn the wheel comes from the stored potential energy of the water in the reservoir, river or tank above it.

This potential energy is stored in the water by lifting it up from a lower place to the reservoir.
The reservoir is filled by rainfall.
The rainfall comes from the moisture in clouds.
The moisture in the clouds came from water evaporated at the surface of oceans, lakes and streams, and irrigated land.
The evaporation of the moisture was done by THE SUN's energy... and this is where the energy comes from to turn any water wheel. (Unless the water is pumped into the reservoir by nuclear or coal or oil fed electric generators and pumps. Even the coal and oil fed electric pumps are powered by the Sun, though.... where do you think that carbon came from? From plants, from the CO₂ in the air, by a process powered by photons from the Sun.)

Now... the device shown in the drawings looks to me like a "chaotic pendulum" and is very difficult to analyze correctly. Let me just say here that you are doing it wrong, and part of why is because of your misconceptions.

And I have no idea what you were referring to earlier when you mentioned "family" and "surgery" but I hope it works out well, anyway.

Carry on....


"If you build it, they will come."  Or maybe.... not.

(And your lack of consistent scale in your drawing is also misleading you -- or me. A meter horizontally should be the same length as a meter vertically, shouldn't it? So your angles and intersection points aren't right, as shown, since your horizontal and vertical meters are different lengths.)

[johnny874]

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TK
You said I have a misconception,
You referenced a rivers cyclic behavior due to solar radiation,
You have seriously missec something. What you posted to demonstrate my ignorance is something King Solomon discussed in the Old Testament of the Bible.
I would suggest people ignore your posts.

Jim

edited to add; I believe Tinsel Koala is a friend of AB Hammer. I know Pirate 88719 (Bill) is.
Alan is a theologian who knows the Bible. it's sad. I remember Alan's posts. he told me he could teach my father engineering, even how to build a Viking longship. His specialty is antiquities. Mt father worked in a boat shop which I have been told has become a museum.
You see, my father is from Norway and worked in his father's and grandfather's boat shop doing work by hand. AB Hammer has told me if my father apprenticed under him that he could teach my father what he already knows, engineering.
Something else AB Hammer and his friends have missed;
  “For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”        Ephesians 2:10 NIV
I think that is one reason why I do not mind living my own life even if other people have it better than me. And as for my hobby
which is this, if it helps other people, then those who have said the road to Hell is paved with good intentions can have a beer with me and educate me to their beliefs.
And if not, then I'll have one with Stefan and ask him how he has survived his own forum. LMAO!!!

[Pirate88179]

Ok, so first I conspire with TK through pm's and now I am a friend of someone named AB Hammer?  Is there anything else that you would like to make up about me that is both not true and, I don't even know about myself?  Seriously Jim, I am starting to worry about you.

Bill

[johnny874]

  Bill,
How about you live near Bowlingreen, Ky. and work as a private investigator.
Your father made ceramic springs which he sold to the government and some how got ripped off and ended up with nothing,
How am I doing so far ?