Eds design

[ourbobby]

Ed Gray, never have find and TRIODE-TUBE than can wort with the announced

G.Pese

Hi there Pese,
                      I have spent a lot of time on this tube idea as well. It resembles more a Pentode valve, with the exception that the "screens" are used as collectors and the positve voltage on the anode is used as a positive screen to stop the electons from going past the screens. Just IMHO.

Regards

[Spokane1]

Here is a new photo of the EMA6 from 1/9/76 Stockholders Meeting to add to your collections.

(Darn the photo is to large at 10MB in a pdf format to attach to this post) I'll have to go to Kinkos and convert these .pdf files to. jpg format and then reduce the resolution. My Version 5 of PhotoShop doesn't do this.

The photo I was going to post is the reverse view of the EMA6 motor from the opposite side, showing details of the commentator and the muffin fans on the power supplies. It also shows a cleaner view of the CSET's

At this meeting it was disclosed by Dr. Norm Chalfin that the measured output of this motor [EMA6] was only 2 HP, all be it near 100%, not counting the recycled energy which may have put it at a COP of about 1.5 or so. The lawyers on the board wanted no mention of any OU energy. Never the less the dismal performance of this "new" motor whitch was three years more advanced (supposidly) than the 100 HP EMA4-E2 killed any further investor support. Gray and Hackenburger continued to work on the motor at least till April of that year by making additional modifications. This was done by adding additional "donuts" in the commutator section. Hackenburger was cut off the payroll by June and had to get a job as a cab driver. He did hang around and worked for free when they had resources to do anything. Mr. Hackenburger was a firm believer in this technology and as far as I can tell did everything he could to make it main stream.

Another photo (again not posted) shows the use of a large vintage Tektronix Oscilloscope (I would speculate it was a 7904 model or something the same size). Therefore Mr. Hackenburger was looking at measurements far deeper than I had thought before.

Richard  did say that the current pulses were on the order of milliseconds - which is pretty long for a capacitor discharge. You can do your own calculations and see what kind of Capacitor and inductor values will lend itself to that kind of oscillation period.

While government interferance did severly impact the sucess of this technology - the shear lack of performance was probably more detrimental. At the time of the stockholders meeting this organization was cash starved and litigation was still on-going with the LA DA. By the time there was a resolution to those legal matters the game was all over. The original equipment was returned a few months later - in boxes. Apparently, the equipment had been mistakenly (ha,ha) run through a scrap iron shredder (or something like that). Of course E.V. Gray didn't have the litigation power to seek recourse or even file a complaint. This is probably why they had to work so hard and so long to find something to pin on him.

What appears to have happend after the stockholders meeting was a general breakdown in confidence of E.V.Gray's technical ability to reproduce his (or actually Marvin Cole's) earlier work. Richard Hackenburger did his best to reproduce the Cole technology, but may have missed some important point. He was not dumb. Listening to audio tapes of him speaking at the time I hear a quick and focused individual frustrated by the dumb decesions by the board of directors. Richard only had a year to work with the original surviving equipment. Once it was confiscated he didn't get a second chance to go back and see what he might have missed. - What a shame.

I suspect that he had it pretty well figured out generally, but was unaware of some simple but important technical feature - like the materials used in the spark gaps or something like that. He claimed that the technology used in the EMA6 was superior to that of the EMA4-E2 - to bad he couldn't prove it by the time of the stockholders meeting.

This was also the time that E.V. Gray's 2nd wife Renete and her father Fred Lenz could see the hand writing on the wall and decided to bail. Fred cast his lot with the investors who were attempting to get control of the patent as liquidated damages against Gray. Fred claimed that he was the builder of the motor and therefore it was his. By the end of the year (1976) Renete had filed for a divorse.

Somehow Gray was able to limp along for the next few years until 1979 when the FCC came in and confiscated the EMA6 and anything else he had left in the shop for EMI interferance. The technology never recovered after this.

Richard Hackenburger got sick in 1980 and was dead withing a week. I doubt if the MIB bumped off E.V. Gray, but I'm not so sure about Richard. If anyone had any idea of the principles of the Marvin Cole technology it was Richard - certainly not Gray.

Spokane1

[turbo]

hi can you post this picture in the download selection? 

Thanks.

PS somebody mentioned the radiant effects only run in the gigaherts.
The effect can be generated at any frequency it is the voltage and pulse duration that makes it happen.
The Gray circuit was claimed to be running around 6Khz.

Marco.

[Spokane1]

Dear Marco,

I would love to upload this collection of new vintage photos. But the smallest one is 6 MB. I had Kinkos scan the original slides and photos at 2400 dpi and thus the large file sizes. (some are 75 MB) They also did it in .pdf format whic is almost impossible to work with as a photo. I need to correct the white balance and reduce the resolution to Internet sizes, but this is going to take some time and maybe some $$.

On, the other technical questions I can only offer my unelightened opinion. I believe both bits of information are correct. First off the 6 KHz frequency relates to the "Electro Static Generator" Black Boxes output. This was actually observed on an Oscilloscope in 1974, It was a 50% duty cycle DC square wave. It is claimed by Richard Hackenburger that the technology used in these "Black Box Inverters" was the same as that was used in the motor.

According to other documentation the motor was producing pulses at a rate of 200,000 per minute or at a rate of 3.333 KHz. Now this was from the output of 12 (or more)  unit power supplies. The power supplies themselves were alledgedly (from John Bedini) running from something that sounded like automotive vibrators which operate at 100 Hz.

So, I think is safe to say the the excitation current pulses were being provided at a rate of 3KHz to 8 KHz. Now the resulting non-classical energies produced by the arcs or what ever is a different matter.  A common arc will generate frequencies from DC to daylight. So speculations about gigahertz frequencies being associated with the Radiant Energy phenomena may be correct. It is still a matter of just how such high frequencies are harvested and optimized.

A study of the Tesla desk top oscillators will yield a lot of good information about the operation of these kinds of circuits. The energy is pulsed into the resonate circuit at a low rate, but the resulting oscillations are determined by the parameters of the secondary circuit, which is generally much higher. It is like ringing a bell - a single stroke of a hammer results in oscillations in the audio range. The interesting thing about the Tesla oscillators is that they were not based upon lumped LC parameters but used a delay line to harvest and magnify the output energies. Therefore each current pulse is added to the last. The amplification takes place when the next pulse is applied before the ringing of the last pulse ahs died out - the faster the better (at least according the Dr. Tesla).

Spokane1

[gyulasun]

Dear Marco,

I would love to upload this collection of new vintage photos. But the smallest one is 6 MB. I had Kinkos scan the original slides and photos at 2400 dpi and thus the large file sizes. (some are 75 MB)

Hi,  maybe you could consider using free file upload services like megaupload.com or rapidshare.com  etc? 

Thanks,  Gyula