Probality of God

[Magluvin]

why are you telling us about it then?
hey godbot... jesus fucking christ! how stupid are you?  you keep quoting this silly book of fairytales that was written by men. it means jack squat.  circular arguments such as yours are not going to convert anyone here... the only people you're going to sell such weak argument to are other godtards like you.

YOU ARE ALL filthy spooners. YOU are ALL guilty of the original spoon. the ONLY way to eternal life and everlasting salvation is to beg the forgiveness of YOUR LORD AND MASTER, the creator and shaper of the universe, the flying spaghetti monster. REPENT YOUR SPOONS! REPENT YOU WICKED, FILTHY SPOONERS.

hey brucetard... you know how when you read what i just wrote about the flying spaghetti monster, you think to yourself... 'how dumb'?  that's EXACTLY what we think when you bloviate about jesus fucking christ.

if mags and your asinine book of fairytales are so wise... dust off your smelly feet and shut the fuck up about your imaginary godfairy savior/creator friend...

And this from a guy that wants to open his own free energy site. It should be a 'nashing' success. He will beat each member to a blithering pulp, day after day. Come hither little children, we have candy...

And here we have a wonderful quote from Wilby the Great, the Imagination Man....

"YOU ARE ALL filthy spooners. YOU are ALL guilty of the original spoon. the ONLY way to eternal life and everlasting salvation is to beg the forgiveness of YOUR LORD AND MASTER, the creator and shaper of the universe, the flying spaghetti monster. REPENT YOUR SPOONS! REPENT YOU WICKED, FILTHY SPOONERS."

Wow, that brought a tear to my eye. Thank you, you , you wonderful man.

Thats right folks, you read it first right here! Never before spoken or written. Its an original!!   Folks get your copy before he stops saying it, or you will be really missing out!!   Get a copy for your kids, as they will enjoy the splendid words of Wilby the Imagination man.  A perfect addition to anyones library and vocabulary!!

Oh yeah, did I mention Wilby is making his own forum site?  Yes I did. And with free membership, each and every member gets free 'spaghetti' for each logon.  Parmesan anyone?  And bring your own 'spoon', your gunna need it.

Keep up the 'good' works Wilby.

Magzimus Leviticus

[WilbyInebriated]

And this from a guy that wants to open his own free energy site. It should be a 'nashing' success. He will beat each member to a blithering pulp, day after day. Come hither little children, we have candy...

And here we have a wonderful quote from Wilby the Great, the Imagination Man....

"YOU ARE ALL filthy spooners. YOU are ALL guilty of the original spoon. the ONLY way to eternal life and everlasting salvation is to beg the forgiveness of YOUR LORD AND MASTER, the creator and shaper of the universe, the flying spaghetti monster. REPENT YOUR SPOONS! REPENT YOU WICKED, FILTHY SPOONERS."

Wow, that brought a tear to my eye. Thank you, you , you wonderful man.

Thats right folks, you read it first right here! Never before spoken or written. Its an original!!   Folks get your copy before he stops saying it, or you will be really missing out!!   Get a copy for your kids, as they will enjoy the splendid words of Wilby the Imagination man.  A perfect addition to anyones library and vocabulary!!

Oh yeah, did I mention Wilby is making his own forum site?  Yes I did. And with free membership, each and every member gets free 'spaghetti' for each logon.  Parmesan anyone?  And bring your own 'spoon', your gunna need it.

Keep up the 'good' works Wilby.

Magzimus Leviticus

i don't give a rat's arse about what a godtard like you thinks.

[Magluvin]

i don't give a rat's arse about what a godtard like you thinks.

Sure you do Wlbert. Or you would be here saying anything at all. 

Magzimus Leviticus

[Magluvin]

Hi Mags,

Curious Chris is a warning to us all.  As the scriptures have said, truly it is better to have never known the truth then to know the truth and to turn from it. 
  2Pe 2:20For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow (pig) that was washed to her wallowing in the mire (mud).

@ Curious Chris
Your only hope is to repent, (change of direction, about face)in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.  Fall to your knees and ask the Lord to help you with your unbelief.

Mags is correct, the early apostles and church, would shake the dust from their sandals to the community that received not their testimony.  And the bible says it will be easier on Sodom and Gemmorah at the judgment, than on them!

Repent while there is still time for you.  Otherwise, things in your life will become 7 times worse.  Saul himself lost his sight until he "saw".  Believe and call on the Lord Jesus Christ and you and your household shall be saved!

Walking with Christ,

Bruce

   

[CuriousChris]

Mags I'll try and answer some of your comments.

Tito threw in the towel. that is an admission of failure.

Its not up to me to prove the bible is false. All I need to do is to prove believers in the bible are unreliable. in other words they are inconsistent. If you go back and read all my posts carefully you will see that's exactly what I have been doing.

It is you that needs to prove the bible is gods word. As they say extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Ask your scientific christian friends to prove God using the scientific method. The honest ones will say they cannot. The dishonest ones will try to quantify the unquantifiable (testimony is unquantifiable).

With respect to 'testimony' I will elaborate.
If I told you two stories
1/ "I was chased by a rabbit"
2/ "I was chased by a 60ft rabbit"

Both are testimony. one is clearly false. I personally would be inclined to believe the first one and discount the second as absolute rubbish. of course you, bruce and tito would believe the second if uttered by Billy Graham.

You put your faith into the person telling the story and not the story. That is a mistake. Always check the story. Then you can determine if the teller is reliable. not the other way around.

I did not come out of my experiences with nothing as you imply.

I came out with the understanding that while I was a christian I believed in the lies told to me.
I came out with a much greater understanding of the human condition.
I came out with an understanding of what self deception is and how to avoid it.

In other words I came out of it much greater than when I went into it. I am a better person because of it.

Think of it like trying to swim cross a rapid river. I reached the other side. I beat the river. meanwhile you are still drowning (happily I am sure).


Bruce.
Yes you should avoid anyone who has risen above religion. one must always be afraid of those who might prove to you that you are mistaken.

This is the greatest fear of religious leaders and therefore it is something they work very hard to neutralise. Think of the many many religious leaders (not just christian but they are good at it) who have fallen because their followers discovered the truth.
start your research here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_involving_evangelical_Christians

Religion is about keeping people under control. knowledge leads to people you cannot control and therefore knowledge is evil (the first evil) in the eyes of religion.

Tito and Bruce are beyond hope (IMHO). You mags on the other hand like chet are more open to discovering the truth. So if there is anything I would like you to get from our interaction its the ability to question what you are told, I could ask no more.

Question everyone INCLUDING ME. Don't automatically trust anyone or anything. Always search for the truth yourself
and most of all QUESTION YOURSELF and your own MOTIVES. ask yourself, WHY do I believe this? Did I really search for the truth or did I only listen to the answers that I wanted to hear?

This last question is by far the biggest failing of all believers.


Like I said to my brother just yesterday. How many times do you get a visiting preacher to your church. They make sometimes extraordinary claims. and yet no one ever says "Hey wait a minute. is he telling the truth?" "Can you please verify those statements" No no one does. some may go home and think to themselves that guy is wrong. but no-one will stand up in church and say that.

Therefore that person has successfully spread a mistruth. At least 75% of the sheep in that flock will beleive in what he says.

My brothers response by the way was a good one. He said he moved church to an apolitical church. He did it to avoid the politicising of religion. of course he missed exactly what I meant. but at least he got it half right.




P.S. The 60ft Rabbit that was my first recallable nightmare as a 5 year old