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Free Electric Multi-use motor - Home gen-Car motor-Boat Motor-lawn mower

Started by inventacom, September 15, 2012, 11:13:45 AM

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e2matrix

Thanks Inventacom for that pic and explanation.   I do believe those radiator fan motors are part of the key.   I have a couple questions but will hold off on them until I get the files from gadgetmall as they may have the answers. 

gadgetmall did you get my email yet I sent to earthlink? 

gadgetmall

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gadget
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Magluvin

Quote from: e2matrix on September 23, 2012, 03:00:08 PM
Thanks Inventacom for that pic and explanation.   I do believe those radiator fan motors are part of the key.   

What would this mean if it is? Does it mean that some automotive fan motors are OU?

I have a few different ones that i saved from replacements where the motor is ok but another component(large resistor, speed control circuit) that is incorporated in the framework of the fan goes bad and only the whole unit is available. I replaced my Fiero cooling fan with one from a Volvo, one that was as I described had other issues and the fan was ok, and it cools much better at about the same draw at 12v.

But if the motors are not OU, then profiling the best motor of them all would be a good idea, to get the best of the best for best results.

Also, if motor isnt OU, then is the generator ou?  OR, is the gear down/up between the 2 somehow cause some kind of power shift in order to provide more out in the end?
It seems like those kinds of things have been well studied and documented. hmm

Finally, there is the difference in the motor and gen operating rpms and power requirements, electrical and mechanical inputs. 

Say if one uses a motor and gen combo that operate at the same rpms normally and are connected as such, a 1 to 1 ratio gearing. If the motor is say to be on the high side 80% eff and the gen 85%, we are around a 35% loss.

But I never thought of using a high rpm motor to run a low rpm gen.

This is a strange thought.  Lets say for example our motor is 4000 rpm and the gen needs 1000 rpm for simplicity.  Now lets say the motor at 4000 rpm is 1hp and the gen needs 2 hp at 1000 rpm. Well if we gear it down from the motor, are we getting 4 hp at 1000 rpm available at the gen ?  :o :o :o    :o   Strange thought isnt it?

The rpm conversion seems to be key.  Like if I just told you that I was powering a gen that needs 2hp with a 1hp motor, would you think Im nuts?  ;]


Without either the motor or the gen being ou, this is the only thing I can come up with, for now.  ;)   

MaGs   is in the house  ;]

gadgetmall

Hi Mags Some key elements are in the files being sent.. stand by ..
Lots of work on this end to keep it in the team .
I only glanced at them and have not had time to read any post here yet ..


E2matrix now has some of the verified email address's and usernames so the files are going out to Team members Verified so far..
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penno64

Hi all,

Just a quick email to show appreciation to E2 and Gadget.

I can appreciate just how much extra work it is to corordinate this entire exercise.

So, on behalf of all of us, a BIG THANKYOU!

Cheers, Penno