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Statement Regarding the Torbay Motor

Started by Omnibus, July 21, 2006, 02:49:13 PM

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Omnibus

With this letter I would like to state that the New York Sofia Institute has not at any time endorsed the magnetic motor constructed by Mr. Walter Dario Torbay and validated that it actually works, as it may appear from some statements made in websites or in publications in the Argentinean press.

On 8 April Dr. Judith Ciottone, the Dean of New York Sofia Institute and I, by our own initiative and motivated by purely scientific interest attended a meeting at the Bronx Community College. It was previously announced that at that meeting an inventor from Argentina, Mr. Walter Dario Torbay, will demonstrate a working model of a magnetic motor.

To our disappointment, only a non-functional model was shown at that meeting, aside from a video which  could serve no purpose of validating the claims.

I made it very clear to Mr. Torbay both at the meeting and in a subsequent letter to him that an actual working model must be shown to me in order for me to pursue any validation or endorsement of this motor and that a mere video such as the one shown can in no way serve as a proof that such motor is real.

Unfortunately, to this day, despite my continuing attempts to contact Mr. Torbay  and have him demonstrate, as he promised, a working model, I have never seen such working model. Moreover, Mr. Torbay and his associates have avoided all contacts since that meeting.

I am still interested in these claims which, if true, are of high scientific significance and I note that at present there are several proposals for such motors, in addition to Mr.Torbay?s version, which deserve further exploration. However, it should be clearly stated that none of these motors has so far been demonstrated to show unequivocally the claimed properties. Thus, any enthusiastic implication to the contrary at the present time is premature, to say the least.

The question as to whether devices producing excess energy exist or not has already been tainted in time with too much fraud and manipulation as to make it an easy target of many a frivolous critic. Therefore, we, those who show interest in this particular field, should approach it with the utmost integrity and openness, necessarily applying the scientific method in every respect.

Vesselin C. Noninski, PhD
Director
New York Sofia Institute

hartiberlin

Hi Vesselin.
many thanks for getting back to us over here.

Well, I am really pretty skeptically now about the motor presented in the Google video.

If you look very closely at the video at the end around 1:30 min in the video,
you can see, that the roller wheels of the stators never touch the
rotating lidcap. Also the lidcap seems to be inverted put there,
as you can see the normal side with the ramps being ontop instead
into the directions of the roller wheels.
Why ?
Also the motor starts and stops immediately as if it was switched on and off
via a hidden switch and driven by a battery and a motor hidden in the lower base.
As Torbay did build all the other parts with transparent Plexiglas, why did he build
the big lower base from nontransparent material ??

Also he now uses on his website the statement, that you Vesselin have verified
his motor, althoughg this is not the truth.... so I wonder, what is going on...

I still believe, that his motor concept is a valid concept and one could
get it to work this way, but this video and his behaviour pose more questions
than they answer...
Do you agree ?
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

acp

Yes, The motor in the video starts and stops immediatly, this suggests very little mass, inertia. But the rotor also turns very smoothly, this would require a steady repulsion force on the rotor if it has little mass. from what I understand from the Torbay principle, the repulsion force on the rotor would be anything but steady.

I'm pretty certain this is a scam.

In the video, the motor starts and stops several times. can anyone deduce if the rotor always stops in the same place each time? I think it would have to....

spadestick

to be honest, I'm very tired of seeing badly made videos of claimed ou devices sitting on a solid table doing its thing. Why can't the camera man or inventor do better eg.

1) without cutting in and out, no video splicing and editing.
2) show what's UNDER the table and a complete 360 view orbit around the object to show that it's not connected to anything else around it, and that the only device powering it is either a small 12V / 9V /1.5V AA battery as claimed or nothing at all.
3) I'd be even more impressed if it were a complete glass/transparent table.
4) show it running for more than 30 revolutions if slow turning such as this, or for at least 3 minutes instead of like a short 30 second commercial, the intent is to prove something, not sell it like fast food to consumers yet.

2tiger

Hi everybody
Please remember the pricipal of Torbay?s device.
1) it can only create a motion if there is a gap in the "magnettrack".
2) And if there is a gap, the setup will "squeeze" the rotor to the gap (at 0 degrees).

So the device should/must react like this (Rotor is moving clockwise):

1) if the sliding magnet is driving out, when the rotor is anywhere in position C, the rotor will stand still immediatly.

2) if the sliding magnet is driving out, when the rotor is anywhere behind position A, the rotor will be squeeze to positon B.

There is about a 50:50 chance that the rotor moves on, when we drive out the sliding magnet.

But on the video we see the rotor allways stop immediatly. And that is too much coincidence for me, thinking that there is something else manipulating this device.

kr
2Tiger