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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on April 22, 2016, 12:08:00 PM
 
  What can I  do?  I'm still looking for the "amplification effect", which can also be adapted work with the Ruslan/Akula device.


You could try building and experimenting with the circuit from Nelson given that your Ruslan replication is giving no positive result.

Hoppy

Quote from: Void on April 22, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
Hi Nick. The built-in ammeter on Nelson's bench power supply has a resolution of 10 mA, so
when that ammeter reads 0.00 A, the current can be anywhere from 0 to 9.99 mA. Nelson's
circuit is probably still drawing some current when the ammeter on his power supply reads
0.00, but all we can tell from the power supply ammeter when it is reading 0.00 is that it is
less than 10 mA.

I have a similar bench supply and I have seen when experimenting with high voltage circuits, that the ammeter can give very false readings. Never rely on digital ammeters for this type of experimentation. Always scope for current using a shunt.

Void

Quote from: Hoppy on April 22, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
I have a similar bench supply and I have seen when experimenting with high voltage circuits, that the ammeter can give very false readings. Never rely on digital ammeters for this type of experimentation.

Hi Hoppy. Sure, I am aware of that and I have mentioned that in this thread probably a couple
of times already as well, but in my experience that is more of an issue with higher power high voltage
circuits such as kacher drivers and HV sparkgap driver circuits. Very low power blocking oscillator circuits
usually don't cause such issues in my experience even if they have a high voltage winding or something
along those lines. The ammeter often jumps around at least a bit in the case where HV is causing the
ammeter to misread, so that is something to watch for if you think a digital ammeter may be reading incorrectly.
If Nelson's circuit that Nick was referring to was a kacher driver, then the power supply digital ammeter reading
could possibly have been giving some false readings, but not necessarily... :)



NickZ

  A small pile of galvanic cells can provide 12v voltage, and a few mA to keep his Nelson's circuit running. As his circuit draws no current, almost.   Or maybe something else with at least 9 volts and a few mAs, or like a super cap, to keep the oscillator going.  In any case something seams very strange and possibly unique with Nelson's device, even if it only has a 10mA draw, or less.
  It be good to know how long a test drive it's been given, like a break in period test,  for burn ins, and burn outs.
  But, I guess he's off to bigger and better projects and ideas.

   BTW: Nelson said something about not having a conventional power supply for the self runner. But, what about something like some galvanic cells, (like Crystal Cells), use a small bank of them that can put out 12v, and a few mAs. The cells will continue to put out that voltage, and current until they breaks down, could be months, or years.  A no current oscillator like Nelsons could run on that for quite a while. But, is that how he does it?  Or, just how,  how,  how??? How can he do it...
                                                                                                                                         I can hear him laughing...

Hoppy

Quote from: Void on April 22, 2016, 01:19:55 PM


Hi Hoppy. Sure, I am aware of that and I have mentioned that in this thread probably a couple
of times already as well, but in my experience that is more of an issue with higher power high voltage
circuits such as kacher drivers and HV sparkgap driver circuits. Very low power blocking oscillator circuits
usually don't cause such issues in my experience even if they have a high voltage winding or something
along those lines. The ammeter often jumps around at least a bit in the case where HV is causing the
ammeter to misread, so that is something to watch for if you think a digital ammeter may be reading incorrectly.
If Nelson's circuit that Nick was referring to was a kacher driver, then the power supply digital ammeter reading
could possibly have been giving some false readings, but not necessarily... :)

Nonetheless, a scoped reading is what I would like to see from Nelson.