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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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SolarLab

F.Y.I.

First - A very Merry Orthodox Christmas to all of our friends and partners everywhere. Best Wishes of Happiness and
especially "Warmth" this "very frigid" Holiday Season!

STANDING WAVES [SW] / TRAVELING WAVES [TW] / Inductive-Capacitive RESONANCE [LCR]

"One of many technical learning background approaches; RE: complexities of the (so called) Grenade Coil"

Basics - Some "aids" in the understanding, characterizing and measuring of SW, TW and LCR:

Assume for a moment that a Tesla Transformer  or Katcher Generator [KG] is used to create a narrow (nSec),
high voltage [HV], series, or chain, of pulses that are fed to an open ended spiral coil (a so called "Antenna") such
that this antenna will "influence" or create a signal within the "Grenade" coil. Fourier analysis shows these narrow
pulses contain many harmonics.

Side bar note: Without any direct physical connection between the Antenna and the Grenade,
these components are largely isolated from each other thus any undesirable "loading" or other detrimental effects
between the  components is significantly reduced. Extraction of energy from the Grenade coil also employs an isolated
helical coil. The overall process merges a somewhat complex "lumped element" and "distributed element" interaction
with stringent timing and wave-shape requirements.

Lumped Element characteristics primarily focus on LCR (oscillator) and quality factor [Q] whereas Distributed Element
characteristics involve Wavelength related Standing/Traveling Wave functions.
Analysis of various operational prototype CE-FE generators of this configuration indicate that both Standing Waves and
LC Resonance must be present within the Grenade coil structure to facilitate optimum electro-magnetic functionality,
and thus, self running electrical power generation.

Bare in mind there a several techniques that can be employed to "describe, characterize and analyze" the phenomena
involved and these differing techniques generally lead to the same, or similar, results - but some methods may lend
themselves more readily to the problem/solution at hand or ease the data presentation based upon the level of hierarchy
needed - for example, detailed circuit design parameters evolved into block diagram S-Parameters as the design scope
and breadth expands.

For those less "skilled-in-the-art" or in need of a "refresher;"  you may find the following to be of some value:

"Agilent Network Analyzer Basics":
http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5965-7917E.pdf
This presentation, although lengthy - some 92 pages, was chosen because it covers a wide swath of the theoretical
as well as practical knowledge and various approaches that you will encounter as you develop FE/CE generators.

A more focused FE/CE generator development resource is found at:
http://gorchilin.com/articles/?lang=en?lang=en

Shameless plug for a moderate cost VNA [BODE 100 by Omicron  Lab]:
https://www.omicron-lab.com/bode-100/product-description.html
Also a good source of technical applications and practical VNA notes.


Directly Related (significant) papers and video:

Vyacheslav Gorchilin - "The lumped and distributed resonances in the inductor"
http://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/?lang=en

Alan Payne - "SELF-RESONANCE IN COILS"
http://g3rbj.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Self-Resonance-in-Coils.pdf

Сергей STALKER's video - "The resonator (pomegranate)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNFXlo5jv4g


FIN

AlienGrey

Quote from: stivep on January 06, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
Excellent.  it is directly related to
1.https://youtu.be/A7jbUA6_10c?t=1142
2.https://youtu.be/GTNjPXDsbjQ?t=157

not so directly  but related to
3.https://youtu.be/j-NLBSBRsBM?t=93
4.https://youtu.be/aJJW8qqa1O8?t=166 ( tariel's helper got shock from HV)

so we are talking about similarity  and properties  of capacitor that has been made  like coil , however  the from  the components of impedance
a- resistance
b. inductive reactance
c- capacitive reactance

the capacitive reactance depends from  size of inductor conductive surfaces.

Bottom line  is:
  Tariel  started from  spark gap
later on  told me that  spark is unstable and he needs to move to electronic HV impulse generator

here: https://youtu.be/IAPe3DiYt2o?t=579
please note that I was NOT sure at the time I have created this video -of- if what I say, is what was done by Tariel .( tariel's helper who assembled this  device  for the show)


SUMMARY :
I wanted to point here  at role of capacitive  reactance of conductor where we are getting:
a-  the  higher the capacitance  the higher is  voltage in the coil (coaxial  cable)
b- spark is a form  manifestation of high voltage  with no difference to the fact  , that we are dealing  with static  electricity  or just   capacitive reactive component of impedance.
c- spark and plasma  looks like it is not essential to have it  ,It could be  just HV impulse  as it shows at number of following  experiments after Tariel Kapanadze  ( Ruslan, Akula)
d- interesting is that when I have made video with Glenn Elmore E-line , similar to  Goubau  transmission line or Summerfield http://aeptransmission.com/ohio/Barnesville-Summerfield/
https://youtu.be/sweXFKSXMxo?t=37

I have noticed  certain similarity to SR ferrite kielbasa with wire in the middle,
Goubau is two cones creating  "sort of" invisible pipe  with center conductor in the middle but  this conductor has insulation  in the middle serving as a medium slowing speed of  electromagnetic wave 
Glenn Elmore does not use insulated center wire but he uses set of  ring plates inside the cone ( dielectric)
In all of these transmission lines  frequency used is high 50MHZ and higher.

but if the distance between center wire and  outer wire is  big and there is ferrite pipe in the middle than  we are dealing with;
a- periodic mechanical change of domain polarity inside ferrite kielbasa pipe.
b- we still have  center wire like in coax  or like in transmission line.
c-- the frequency of square impulse is not so  low.
ad c:
if you take rectangular  wave form  -that one, is made out of  zillions  of transverse wave forms  of different  frequencies.often of very high frequencies.
Take  an example :Even if you interrupt regular DC circuit with the regular switch than  you have zillions of  transverse  wave forms  at rise-time and fall-time of that  impulse( the higher the voltage the more evident they are)  and every time you interrupt it with the switch  you have ionization of  air taking place.
You may say that with few volts  from DC battery there is no visible ionization taking place. However Tesla coil is sort of transforming  "voltage multiplier" the higher is voltage potential the lower would be the current but the more ionization would take place.   

Tariel first  started build his devices based on   Spark gap  because spectrum of spark     has zillions of transverse  waveforms.
by that Tariel was never worry what is the single transverse component that is going to do the job in within spark spectrum frequencies. there was always one present  and ready for him to interact. 
during spark generation when spark  gasp increases or conductivity of spark electrodes surface changes there is always any neighboring  frequency  in within the spectrum ready to interact 


Than  I start to think......
What is  if any  the common link between:
1. spark
2. spark gap distance
3. spark generator  -( impulse generator) from water heater
4. square wave impulse and its  length
5. DC square wave rise and fall time(there are AC components)
6. Transmission line
7. SR middle center wire in pipe
8. coaxial cable

Wesley I'm just trying to picture what's happening in my head regarding the old boiler ignition system, so are we to assume we wind a caduceus coil x2 and we feed it with the energy from the EHT and in doing so energy is pulsed in a sine wave trough the caduceus coil, the only problem here is wont it over heat and burn out, could you suggest how this should be done (a spark gape perhaps) just suggesting that but i don't think that alone would be sufficient     

seychelles

SERIOUSLY DOES THIS GUY KNOWS THE WAY POWER READING SHOULD BE TAKEN?
THE VOLTAGE AND CURRENT HAVE TO BE TAKEN SIMULTANEOUSLY . BECAUSE AS AS
ONE GO UP THE OTHER GOES DOWN. IT IS THE PRESSURE WHICH IS VOLTAGE AND
AMOUNT OF ELECTRONS WHICH IS CURRENT WHICH MULTIPLIES TO POWER..
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY (WHICH IS RESONANCE)
AND ONE NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM..(IF IT FROM GRAVITY
,EFFER ,MAGNETISM, SUN AND OR CHEMICAL ).

AlienGrey

Quote from: seychelles on January 07, 2017, 09:44:12 PM
SERIOUSLY DOES THIS GUY KNOWS THE WAY POWER READING SHOULD BE TAKEN?
THE VOLTAGE AND CURRENT HAVE TO BE TAKEN SIMULTANEOUSLY . BECAUSE AS AS
ONE GO UP THE OTHER GOES DOWN. IT IS THE PRESSURE WHICH IS VOLTAGE AND
AMOUNT OF ELECTRONS WHICH IS CURRENT WHICH MULTIPLIES TO POWER..
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY (WHICH IS RESONANCE)
AND ONE NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM..(IF IT FROM GRAVITY
,EFFER ,MAGNETISM, SUN AND OR CHEMICAL ).
We already said it's a wast of space, so lets not wast any more.OK OK  8) :o