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Overunity Machines Forum



New comer needs any and all help

Started by jhsmith87, October 04, 2012, 12:42:28 PM

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TinselKoala

I just tried mine with an ordinary 9V battery. It runs fine, draws 20-30 mA at speed, but doesn't light the neon. So I'm sticking with 12 volts and new stock 2n3055 rather than old worn out ones.

TinselKoala

Quote from: jhsmith87 on October 11, 2012, 11:52:46 PM
thanks for telling me that the coils don't have to be perfect. Because I read  in a posting somewhere that's a corals had to be wrapped very neatly. Since then have been obsessing over having them perfect. Right now I'm just finishing up because I'll I'm at 600 turns right now I think I'll go to 900. I'll be able to get my phone take some pictures of what I've done so far maybe tomorrow but it's only the coil.

Heh..... I can hear Wilby gnashing his teeth already.   ;D

You see..... this is supposed to be an overunity motor, right. It is supposed to charge up a battery, then you swap the batteries, run on the one you charged, and charge the one you were running on, lather rinse repeat, forever.

BUT.... nobody has ever been able to really do that, except Bedini....    ::)

So people make up all kinds of reasons. I didn't use the right gauge wire, or special unobtanium welding rods with creon sulphate flux, or left handed finishing nails. So... if you do use the right wire and the right core, it won't work because of some other reason, like not having your coil wrapped perfectly. But I tell you this: those reasons are bogus, because they have never actually been tested to see if they make any difference. How could you test, if you don't have an overunity motor for reference to begin with? So people seem to believe that even the most irrelevant details are important, like the color of the sandpaper used to smooth the mounting board, or the difference between #26 and #27 wire. Well, if overunity hinges on a detail like that.... fine, show me the sausages, I'd love to see someone demonstrate two coils with different wire gauges, one OU and one not, the only difference being the wire gauge. Or the neatness of the wrapping.

But when winding electromagnets or pulse-sense coils, it actually might be better NOT to be superneat with all windings perfectly parallel and overlapped like a machine. That kind of neat obsessive winding _might_ have some effect at high frequencies, sure, and a fast spike has high frequency components in it. But still..... I maintain that for this kind of coil it's not worth the time and effort, UNTIL someone shows that a "perfect" coil works better in some way than one that is wound randomly with the same length and number of turns of wire.

And guess what.... my "trifilar" coil (which is not trifilar electrically) with the wrong gauge wires and the thin bolt for a core, and a rotor with only two magnet positions, works just fine and makes the right waveforms and charges external caps just fine and until someone can prove to me that it's not, I am calling it a Bedini North Pole Motor and claiming that it works just like Bedini's own does, with no significant differences.

TinselKoala

A little trick I learned when working with Orbette (the Steorn pulse motor of the third kind) was to use a bias magnet on the core. This works here too! By placing a small NdB magnet on the core rod extension at the location indicated in the picture below, I can get a 10 percent increase in top RPM, going from about 1000 to about 1100 RPM with 13 volts in. Turn the bias magnet around and I get a reduction in RPM.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 12, 2012, 12:18:02 AM
Heh..... I can hear Wilby gnashing his teeth already.   ;D
nice strawman... ::)

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 12, 2012, 12:18:02 AM
But still..... I maintain that for this kind of coil it's not worth the time and effort, UNTIL someone shows that a "perfect" coil works better in some way than one that is wound randomly with the same length and number of turns of wire.
and what you assert without evidence will be denied without evidence...
is this like when you 'maintained' there would be no difference in mosfet performance? or when you 'maintained' you knew more about mosfet substitution than i?  how did those assertions turn out again? oh yeah...  you threw a little hissyfit and disappeared for a year. ::)  but still... until someone (or some troll) PROVES otherwise i maintain that this latest assertion of yours is much the same. ::)

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 12, 2012, 12:18:02 AM
And guess what.... my "trifilar" coil (which is not trifilar electrically) with the wrong gauge wires and the thin bolt for a core, and a rotor with only two magnet positions, works just fine and makes the right waveforms and charges external caps just fine and until someone can prove to me that it's not, I am calling it a Bedini North Pole Motor and claiming that it works just like Bedini's own does, with no significant differences.
are you going to call it a replication again? ::)
and again... what you assert without evidence will be denied without evidence. ::)


and isn't it about time for you to pimp your shoddy little tesla coil? ::)
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the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Paul-R

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 10, 2012, 06:26:17 AM
But this is not the place to talk about those kinds of things yet. We are trying to help jhsmith87 get his circuit doing something...
Yes. But how about you starting up a new thread on your idea?