Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Cadman]

Hello All,

I have a question that may be extremely important. With the Figuera/Buforn setup there is one induced coil between two inducing coils. With the commutator through resistor setup shown in the 1908 patent varying the DC exciting current does the polarity of the magnetic circuit in the IRON actually reverse polarity? Or do the poles in the iron just vary in intensity?

I have been calculating the watts lost in the soft iron over and over and this question looks like the key to whether the design will work or not. If the iron polarity reverses the watts lost always exceed the output unless the frequency is extremely low and then the net output is very low. At least on paper.

This question does not apply to the 1902 patent with the rotating coils.

Can anyone provide a definite answer from actual testing?

Thanks and Regards

[antijon]

Hi Cadman, et all... That's a good question. Judging by the commutator and just taking a wild guess at the driving motors RPM, I'd say the output waveform of the inducing coils is less than 60HZ. Of course, that's not really pertinent info...

If the coils, all three, were arranged on a single shaft with poles facing, like a dual primary transformer, the flux in the induced coil cannot change polarity. This is if we're feeding it DC pulses, out of phase. From my experience, along with common sense, if the two primary coils are opposing, there will be no significant output.

From Figuera's descriptions, there is a magnetic field that varies in intensity and direction. He describes the output as being AC, which can be made DC with a switch, therefore, from what you say, the coils must not be 3 on a common axis.

I'm including a photo, edited, to show what I think is the proper way to make the coils. From what I can understand, this is also how Stupify12 describes it. The photo was taken from a patent that  hanon uploaded back on page 30-something, which I'm re-sharing. I've edited it to replace the permanent magnet in the patent with a second primary.

This patent, in my eyes, is the modern-day Figuera dynamo. Seriously, I think hanon needs to get an award or something for the info he digs up.

Last photo is a section cut from another of Figuera's patents that I found by googling "figuera buforn patent". We can clearly see the different arrangement with the "N", "S", and "y" coils. I think this is evidence that points to my first photo being correct.

What do you think, guys?

[marathonman]

The Primaries do not change polarity just intensity only the secondaries change polarity,their would be to much loss if they were switching so that means that the primaries could possibly use Grain oriented Iron having good magnetic induction in one direction and poorly in reverse while the Secondary should be NON Grain oriented or Good Quality Iron to allow for good induction in both direction with little Remanence. at least that's my two cents worth.
Also the primaries are never zero volts so the output core will be less magnetic resistance than the opposite core then if there is Bemf in secondary the opposite primary core will be less resistance than the induced core thus absorbing any Bemf into opposite core being of opposite polarity.(Attraction mode)

[hanon]

Hi everyone,

About the patent from 1908 with the variable magnetic fields:

I have found a video which (I think) presents the ESSENCE of the Figuera motionless generator

In this video it is presented the motor version where the coil is energized to create motion. But,  the very same concept can be used to create a motionless generator. If you create two magnetic fields and you swing them back and forth then an induced current will be collected in the intermediate coil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMHmLgXWR1U

Therefore a motionless generator can be built with two variable magnetic fields without moving any piece at all !!

In the video two magnetic fields with LIKE POLES FACING EACH OTHER are used. (this patent from 1908 is radically different from those filed by Figuera in 1902 and that he sold to a banker union).  The same Youtube user has more videos where he optimizes this idea: closing the magnetic circuit and adding more magnets increase the power of this device without using any more input current.

We should try every possible pole configuration N-N, S-S, N-S,...  Remenber that Figuera did not stated explicitly the pole orientation. He used the notation "N rectangle" and "S rectangle" but he never said North nor South (which I found really weird). He did not clarified the exact pole orientation  in any part of the patent nor in the patent claims. ( Link to patent text )

Please post your comments. I think that this video it is very interesting for everyone to think deep in this device.

Regards

[marathonman]

Hanon we have disgust this set up before many moons ago. it could be set up with little to no cost to find out. everyone already knows that an Electromagnet is many, many times more powerful than a magnet can ever be. i just think that the bloch wall between the NN or SS should not be swung past the end of the coil. this would insure different polarities at coil ends (correct) so this means that the opposite inducer should never reach Zero just varying the intensity of the currant.
in the pic below is this what you are talking about.of course i don't have a core present though.
I will be ordering a 300 Watt Resistor with multiple taps from NTE this week end so i will test the viability of this set up. i can use my two channel or my 9 channel Figueras timing boards it makes no difference. i have a few variacs lying around so i can run it through a bridge rectifier for my 100 volts. i will post my findings as  soon as i can.