Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Doug1]

Hanon
The spacers are for more then that.They reduce the end to end potential by breaking it up to reduce the risk of a arch over between turns and also provide a rigid support to fight against the force acting on the coil. Same movement you would see in a audio speaker that moves the cone. The pounds of force can become large acting on the coil which would cause it to vibrate or shift and sometimes become distorted as the joule heating increases the wire becomes more soft and pliable. It is less of a problem on small low power models but a big problem on high output larger systems. Maybe you should go back and read some of the Silvanus phillips thompson  books and not skim or hand pick what you think matters from the directories. The books do not mention the use of thicker wire for the self supporting benefits or the use of square wire or flat ribbon. You have to figure that out on your own.

[hanon]

Doug, I already posted this a month ago or so, and has relation to my last post:


Why did Buforn change so radically the writting about the placement of the induced coil comparing his patents from 1910 and 1911?
Could he try to hide the key feature for running the generator? It got me thinking...  


1910 patent: Induced coil core without touching the electromagnets cores


1911 patent: Induced coil core must always touch the electromagnets core


Both patents are exact copies of the 1908 Figuera patent. The only difference between 1910 and 1911 patent is this feature. I tend to think that maybe Buforn filed a new patent in 1911 in order to hide the key features of this device...Why if not did he changed the patent just in that feature? He could have said that the device works in both ways...Just a thought


Note: the 1910 patent is the only patent which was audit by an agent of the patent office and got a positive review of practical implementation

[stupify12]

Hello everyone,

                         Tesla 

"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe."

                      Figuera's Patent

Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed
circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as
when, this circuit being still and motionless, the MAGNETIC field is increased
and reduced in intensity; since any Variation , occurring in the flow traversing
a circuit is producing electrical induced current

Tesla  answer

By varying the relative position upon the commutator of the respective brushes automatically in proportion to the varying electrical conditions of the working-circuit the current developed can be regulated in proportion to the demands in the working-circuit.

Figuera's Patent

It was considered the
possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of
movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase
and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the
electrical current which produces it.

Tesla Patent

If, for instance, the commutator-space between the brushes a and c, when the latter is at the neutral point, is diminished, a current will flow from the point Y over the shunt C to the brush b, thus strengthening the current in the part M', and partly neutralizing the current in the part M; but if the space between the brushes a and c is increased, the current will flow over the auxiliary brush in an opposite direction, and the current in M will be strengthened, and in M' partly neutralized.

Figuera 1908

Therefore it
matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of
the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them;

Tesla Answered

It will be apparent that the respective cores of the field-magnets are subject to the neutralizing or intensifying effects of the current in the shunt through c', and the magnetism of the cores will be partially neutralized or the point of greatest magnetism shifted, so that it will be more or less remote from or approaching to the armature, and hence the aggregate energizing actions of the field magnets on the armature will be correspondingly Varied.

Figuera

Here what it is constantly changing is the intensity of the excitatory current
which drives the electromagnets and this is accomplished using a resistance,
through which circulates a proper current, which is taken from one foreign
origin into one or more electromagnets, magnetize one or more
electromagnets and, while the current is higher or lower the magnetization of
the electromagnets is decreasing or increasing and varying, therefore, the
intensity of the magnetic field , this is, the flow which crosses the induced
circuit.

Tesla  Patent

The relative positions of the respective brushes are varied, either automatically or by hand, so that the shunt becomes inoperative when the auxiliary-brush has a certain position upon the commutator, but when said auxiliary brush is moved in its relation to the main brushes, or the latter are moved in their relation to the auxiliary brush, the electric condition is disturbed and more or less of the current through the field-helices is diverted through the shunt or a current passed over said shunt to the field-helices.

Now look for the Tesla Patent that start with 369, I think we can find 2 Patents which explain how to Vary the Intesity of Magnetism.


Meow

[Doug1]

Hanon
I think he did mention the shape and space do not make a difference because it is motionless. The only reason for the additional patents I dont think he was confident in the patent system. There are two types of patent the lessor being a specific design which someone can make a few minor changes to and get their own patent on your idea. I dont remember the actual names of the types of patents. Im pretty tired after driving 11 hours.
  Stupify
  I think you got the numbers wrong on your Tesla patent you referred. Its a regulator for electric dynamo machines #336961. The resistance can be a built in feature of the brush or of the wire connecting to the brushes. Brushes can be made from layers of materials with different resistances some of Tesla's older works define that method but it seems more complicated then it is worth compared to working the wire connected to the brush. Old resistance wire of the period was a lot different then nichrome wire of today. Last I looked at different materials for short distance medium resistance the only one I found effective was an old metal file that had been forged into a knife. The repeated heating in the process of forging may have effected the resistance compared to a not altered file. The thing that may work in favor is that as the temperature of the wire increases the resistance will as well increase so maybe soft iron wire will work if it is allowed to heat up first. It would also act as a fuse link to afford some protection.
   Stupify I guess you picked up on the winding configuration lol. Pretty funny how  there is more then one way. I attached the pat file in .pdf. That way Hanon wont have to go through all the steps to find it.
   

[hanon]

Hi,


I collect here an idea that already appeared in the forum about generating the two signals for the Figuera 1908 patent with a very simple method.


Suppose that each inducer is composed by two coils: One coil feed with DC current and the other coil feed with AC current. In inductor 1 you could place both coils so that both magnetic fields (from the DC and AC) add up in the first half cycle of the AC signal. In the inducer 2 you could place both coils to subtract their magnetic fields in that half cycle. Later, during the second half cycle, the polarity of the AC signal will reverse and in the inducer 2 both fields will add up while those fields will cancel in inductor 1.


With this layout I think you could get both opposite signals with a very easy setup. I post here an sketch in order to make it clearer for other users.


Regards