Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[JohnMiller]

Oh, NO! Don't do that. PLEASE! Please continue discussing with those being open minded. I know how you feel but unfortunately those controversies are usual at any forum from time to time. Ravens exist and you can't prevent them from flying around your head. But you are not forced to follow them and you are not supposed to allow them nesting on your head.
I myself want to try a replication. I ordered first materials.
I am one decade older than you and I know that I will loose my job within a year. Then I will have plenty of time for experiments. Just preparing for that time. I have few mechanic skills in terms of precision and no friend with such skills. Therefore I look for simple devices like yours. Only those devices can serve poor regions in the world. I want to contribute.

Rgds John 

[BANDI]

NRamaswami,
Please don t do this !
We are a group of people who try to replicate this,whe almost have all the materials and  really need your help.
For now we have a small scale prototype and behaves exactly as you say.
Those who do not like these posts, simply  skip them and save  time and bad taste comments  .
Here are much buffoonery  than real work.
Please dont pay attention , not worth it.

Regards,
              Bandi.

[iflewmyown]

NRamaswami
Please do not listen to the naysayers on this forum. They attack others because they themselves have nothing to offer. You have been very upfront about all your answers and spent many hours just in replies to this forum. Most of the people here are sincerely interested in what you say. It is my hope and that of my family that you continue to help and ignore those who would bury this information. The last person to understand this died in 1908. Will the world have to wait another 107 years to get free of the slave masters?? Gandhi did not run when the British mocked him. He was one man who changed not just your country but the world. I am a retired man with a limited income but when I feel I understand this well enough I will build your device. Thank you
Garry

[JohnMiller]

If I may ask where or when you were employed ( the reason I ask is everybody that I have come in contact on the traditional side of energy has laughed or scoffed at free energy )...as you state you're well informed in free energy ( have you had success in the ZPE field )...... Since you're in the business whats your view of iron and/or other metals...lastly whats your view of gaps in iron?

@RandyFL:
Thanks for welcoming me :-)
Sorry for not introducing me before. I am intrigued by free energy matters since 4 years. I tested some minor setups but was not pleased with results. Therefore I extended my lab and workshop and red plenty of sources in order to grasp some common properties of this physics. Playing in both camps (traditional and border physics) is mainly not a matter of education but of mindset. But it is effort to strip down mainstream knowledge in order to add additional knowledge being not common. New things need to be approached with a humble mind. Else the main facts might be overseen.

In order to explain on what verge we stand today I want to tell how our ancestors began with electricity. Back in 1450 only one electric effect was known: rubbing amber (Greek = elektron) on silk or fur generated static effects. Hence "electric" was initially a party gag. Ladies rubbed their amber collier on their silk skirts and charged the amber. Then waiters brought frogs on a try and ladies touched them with the charged amber. Then they watched which frog jumped the greatest distance.
Later on scientists rolled a ball of brimstone in a wooden box and when others touched the ball their hairs stood straight up.... This shall indicate on what verge we stand today compared to the facts that can possibly known.
Later on those great minds like Faraday started thorough scientific investigations and tried to find out some novel effects. Maxwelll added the math to the experimental results.
[Of course at that time naysayers were present like today. They are undying and never will expire. So we shall learn to live with them but prevent getting controlled by them.]
The gathered knowledge of later great minds like Volta, Galvani, Ampére, Ohm, Hertz .... added all their share to our knowledge. And indeed we have great products today being based on their contribution.
I cannot understand why some minds believe today that we are ready and they know the limits of science. The only limit is in the human understanding and mindset. This never will change. Hence scientific limits never were known by anyone. But the great minds only understood that and expressed it in particular.
Back to Nrmaswami device: He is one of those "tinkerers" like B. Franklin who was laughed when he "tried to catch lightning bolts" ha ha ha ..... Let's continue welcoming what he shares and we will add our penny.

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Of course conventional science states that  electric steel is he best choice in terms of getting maximum magnetic flux. But having no closed magnetic circuit like at standard transformers the maximum flux never can be achieved. And we have no high frequency power equipment like used at miner equipment and air plains. So what?. Bedini likes to use welding rods out of mild steel? Nramaswami uses cheap and fat iron rods of unknown quality and he got effects we are still after. Further notions will be issued if we have assembled some kind of spec. So why should we "put our cloth on with tweezers if we can do it quite genuinely"?

A scientific approach is to replicate a running setup as close to the first prototype as possible. Any pre-replication "enhancement" might be a drawback. It is a blind flight or scientific roulette. Of course nobody will have the exact materials like the prototype but perhaps close to.
And if somebody wants to try an own approach (e.g. scaled down device): so what? It is his money, his time spent and he might detect novel effects.  I feel it is not helpful to conduct discussions fundamentalisticly. As long everybody extracts knowledge shared and shares his experience we are on the right way. The magic might be in the plurality of minds and approaches.

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I myself imagine lots to improvements but I refuse to share them because they might detract and confuse and I definitely still do not know on how this device works exactly. So I vote to be blind in these matters and how can I dare to advise others. I am supposed to learn.
My focus is on a first replication and I do not worry to demonstrate a closed loop. It is too early for that. Some chains of 220V incandescent bulbs or several 2KW heaters in series will very well demonstrate COP factor.
Any further enhancements NEED to be tested in comparison to the FIRST working setup. The human mind is not made to deal with more than 7 parameters at same time. So let's keep thinks adapted to our limits.

My personal approach will be:
- Scan all contributions regarding this device and extract those sentences that contribute to any kind of specification. (BTW I am trained in requirement engineering as well and therefore I am used to stick on every possibly distant ambiguity)
- Ambiguities need to be resolved first - if possible. (no distrust to you nramaswami - just a matter of human communication issues...)
- Setup a calculator (Excel) for spool dimensions and wire length in order to perform some predictions of materials needed.

OK. Then let me retract to start my work.
John

[RandyFL]

Hello All,

John,
so what exactly is electrical steel...
I understood it to be iron + carbon = steel + silicon...
I purchased my iron from Ed Fagan, Inc.
http://www.edfagan.com/
As I stated before the iron I purchased when electricity passes thru it it magnetizes and whenst it stops the metal clips fall off...

Randy