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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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RandyFL

Here is the circuit:

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And here is how it is laid out:

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gyulasun

Hi RandyFL,

Please let me chime in and say that the correct question to ask is how much voltage do you need to jump the air gap, ok?

It is the electric field strength which counts when a spark gap fires, besides of course the size and other properties of the gap and its close vicinity.

And it is another question how much power you use to create a certain voltage to jump, to fire a certain air gap. Of course a voltage source can be a ready made one, you do not neccessarily have to create it.

And yet another question is how "beefy" the source of the voltage, i.e. when you load it directly or indirectly with a near short circuit a fireing air gap represents, then how much current the voltage source is able to maintain, directly or indirectly, via that near short circuit (i.e. via the ionized air or gas), ok? 

And the power used in this process depends on
- the inner resistance of the voltage source
- the inner resistance or impedance of the circuit (if there is a circuit) used to create the voltage for the air gap
- the resistance of the near short circuit i.e. that of the ionized air (or gas) after the gap just fired
- and the resistance or impedance of the load of course

Gyula

RandyFL

Gyula,

I'm trying to stay in the parameters of 12 volts...auto battery...
magnet wire 10 AWG or 12 SWG = max amps 15....but that's on the high end ( 14 or 16 AWG is what I have )
and solid state... as per my last post

as I delve into the air gap info... an air gap is the equivalent of a resistor in a magnetic circuit...mmF = E..........and Flux = current
BDX53 s --->9 amps = 108 watts, 2N3055 s --------> 35 amps = 420 watts....

gyulasun

Hi RandyFL,

Sorry, unfortunately I answered as if you had asked about a spark gap power but you asked on a magnetic air gap power.  :(

My mistake came from that the two posts preceeding your post of the air gap power question were involved with extracting reactive power from LC tank and somehow I associated your question with power extraction via (spark) gap from the tank.

Re on a magnetic air gap and how much power it may have: it more or less corresponds to the input excitation power defined by the 12V and the input current to the coil what you considered as the 9A or the 35A, and this given amount of input is divided into two parts: the one which is in the ferromagnetic core (or coil if there is no core) and the other part is in the air gap.
It can happen easily that the air gap power or more precisely the magnetic energy in the air gap (out of the total input) can be higher than the magnetic energy in the core, this depends on the magnetic path lengths of the core and how  that compares to the length of the air gap. 
See the example at very bottom paragraph of this link:
http://www.vias.org/matsch_capmag/matsch_caps_magnetics_chap3_17.html

Gyula

RandyFL

Gyula,
I am considering painting the cores with a red flame proof manifold paint...but its after I actually have experienced what the figuera does...
for now I will just consider insulating paper, wood or leaving it open ( but that entails clamping so that would be a last resort ) I probably will go with insulating paper I bought last year..........fish paper I guess they call it ( fyberoid fish paper )...

anyway...
its a vicious circle I think...the more turns on the primary to jump the gap...means a bigger transformer...then bigger coils...then bigger wire...then who knows in the secondary s ....... 01 AWG ----------------->how the hell would you wrap that around a iron bar....LOL

Lastly...my question is about Woopy and Kehyo ( who actually got results - look at my previous posts ) why didn't they pursue forward...they started something else.......

all the best