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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

Darediamond

How did they rectify ac back then? Do you think the person who was fighting for ac might have found or known of way to rectify ac without using rectifiers or diodes? So the people who were already set up with dc would not lose all their invested money on the dc operated equipment they had in place before ac was fully developed.All the towns that had invested in lighting the streets and a few homes of wealthy people had to be convinced ac could also be used to run the dc they had already invested in.
  Tesla filed a patent for it 1889, how long had he known about it before then? People were not sure which would become the dominate means for power transmission at the time some must of thought there was no way Tesla would win out and all the little details about how to manipulate ac were most likely for some not worth patenting. There is no way to know for how long the method was known before the patent filing. So few believed in ac who would bother except the those who were fighting for it. Rectifying ac is not dependent on vaccum tubes or ic's or diodes. They were made after the fact born from the original. The magnetic fields can be used to block the current of ac through cancellation without wasting it as heat to block it.
  If you dont know that or the how or have not tried it does that mean it does not work or exist. Im sure you will think it easier and cheaper to just bop on down to some electronics shop and buy some plastic parts and solder together a circuit board .So do it.

NRamaswami

Dare Diamond:

Primary appears to be wound in CW and CCW directions but the rotation of current in both primaries is in the same direction.

Primary can be connected both in parallel and in series. If the input current is high a series connection would also work to generate high voltage and high ampreage in the secondary. Input wattage will be higher in serial connection and lower in parallel connection. But in both cases the current must move towards the center and then move away from the center.

Secondary coil must be far thicker in size than the primary coil. The secondary turns must be sufficient to generate higher voltage in secondary than the primary voltage.

One of our friends wanted me to post this quote for people confused about the need for higher voltage in secondary.

the quote in the 1902 patent #30378

Quote
The current dynamos, come from groups of Clarke machines, and our generator recalls, in its fundamental principle, the Ruhmkorff induction coil.

So, the Ruhmkorff coil is the CLASSIC High Voltage Coil. Why would Figureas  refer to the Ruhmkorff coil if he didn't use high voltage. If he used low voltage he would have said the principles were similar to the Clarke machine.

Bottom line:
High Voltage needs to be used, as stated by Figureas. The fundamental principle lies in the Ruhmkorff coil as stated by Figureas.
End Quote..

The only difference is that high voltage secondary here is a thick wire. Not thin wire. Lenz law is defeated in this set up of two opposing primaries that focus the magnetic field in the center. Whether you wind the coil only in the center or also under the primary coils the result is the same. Lenz law is negated. Lenz effects are certainly there but they are cancelled out.

There is nothing more to this device.

cliff33

Darediamond,



"How will the lenzless HIGH FREQUENCY AC OUTPUT from the Center Secondaries be tapped and used if HIGH FREQUENCY Diodes are not first employed to rectify that aforementioned output and then converted back to AC by Simply using an inverter?

Can you explain Mr?"


From your question, I can only assume that you believe that diodes have to be added to the output of the secondary.
Well yes ,but only if you want to drive a 12 volt inverter for 115volt 60hz output.
   I also assume that you believe you can't run a load directly off the ac secondary coil. Not true.

I'll be driving my primaries at much higher frequencies than CF ever could.
I can use my ham rig to light up a 100 watt incandescent bulb using 4 mhz.
You can run any resistive load directly from the "y" output.


hanon

K.I.S.S.   = Keep It Simple St....


Center tapped transformer + DC offset


One transformer wit turns ratio 1:20 and other with ratio  1:33.  220 V AC input . I regulate the voltage to the lower transformer (adjusting the ratio 1:33) to get the two signals to be always positive. I have simulated my four inducers ( 2.3 ohm and 23 mH )  (Software: easyeda.com )



darediamond

Quote from: Doug1 on April 12, 2016, 06:04:59 AM
Darediamond

How did they rectify ac back then? Do you think the person who was fighting for ac might have found or known of way to rectify ac without using rectifiers or diodes? So the people who were already set up with dc would not lose all their invested money on the dc operated equipment they had in place before ac was fully developed.All the towns that had invested in lighting the streets and a few homes of wealthy people had to be convinced ac could also be used to run the dc they had already invested in.
  Tesla filed a patent for it 1889, how long had he known about it before then? People were not sure which would become the dominate means for power transmission at the time some must of thought there was no way Tesla would win out and all the little details about how to manipulate ac were most likely for some not worth patenting. There is no way to know for how long the method was known before the patent filing. So few believed in ac who would bother except the those who were fighting for it. Rectifying ac is not dependent on vaccum tubes or ic's or diodes. They were made after the fact born from the original. The magnetic fields can be used to block the current of ac through cancellation without wasting it as heat to block it.
  If you dont know that or the how or have not tried it does that mean it does not work or exist. Im sure you will think it easier and cheaper to just bop on down to some electronics shop and buy some plastic parts and solder together a circuit board .So do it.

And what benefit is in applying a complex process when there is simpler, effective and efficient ALTERNATIVE?