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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Schiko

Hi all

I'm just an old electronics technician. With old ideas. And I don't consider myself very smart to answer a few questions for sure. But I think the image of the post http://www.overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg372131/#msg372131 shows what I think about the subject.
Unfortunately I can't express myself very well in English, I'm trying, but I don't know if I'm to get ...

I don't think Mr. Figuera had exotic ideas in mind when he conceived the machine.
If we think simple, perhaps, get good results too.

I'm making new experiences, when possible, I show you here to discuss.
Cheers
pic's by Wikipédia resonance page

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Spring_resonance.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Standing_wave_2.gif

forest

Schiko


Would you be so nice to  help me and in reality all of us to solve some mystery related to what Figuera knew ? It require simple experiment but with tools I can't afford or borrow  :(  : good digital scope with power integrating/computing a signal generator and a ferrite core transformer custom made probably (ferrite because it has to have stable inductance), luxmeter.
First let me describe context : everybody knows that by placing a bulb in resonant tank circuit (a bulb with stable resistance, preheated for example) will allow to light it to the same light intensity consuming less power from source.


The question is simple : can we do that placing tank circuit on primary of transformer while bulb is connected to secondary ?
YES/NO - has to be experimentally proved !

Qwert

Quote from: hanon on October 07, 2013, 05:50:43 PM

The F-machine resembles >>Thane C. Heins bi-toroid transformer<<, http://www.overunity.com/7833/thane-heins-bi-toroid-transformer/30/#.UlPhthCE7z0 or just use google for more info.

The other link shows an article of Hartiberlin (Stefan Hartmann), the owner of this forum. It's more than easy to get him for an answer of concerns regarded here.

hanon

Quote from: Qwert on October 08, 2013, 06:58:24 AM
The F-machine resembles >>Thane C. Heins bi-toroid transformer<<, http://www.overunity.com/7833/thane-heins-bi-toroid-transformer/30/#.UlPhthCE7z0 or just use google for more info.

The other link shows an article of Hartiberlin (Stefan Hartmann), the owner of this forum. It's more than easy to get him for an answer of concerns regarded here.

Thane Heins transformer is based on a different concept than the F-machine. Thane Heins try to redirect the induced magnetic flow along the path with lower reluctance but he does not use any air gap. On the other hand, the F-machine is based on compensatig both induced field flowing in opposite direction into a closed magnetic circuit (toroid), and it needs and air gap between the inducer coil and the toroid.   My question is:

Could be right to try to compensate opposite induced fields in the 1902 patent?

Schiko

Quote from: forest on October 08, 2013, 04:23:31 AM
Would you be so nice to  help me and in reality all of us to solve some mystery related to what Figuera knew ? It require simple experiment but with tools I can't afford or borrow  :(  : good digital scope with power integrating/computing a signal generator and a ferrite core transformer custom made probably (ferrite because it has to have stable inductance), luxmeter.
First let me describe context : everybody knows that by placing a bulb in resonant tank circuit (a bulb with stable resistance, preheated for example) will allow to light it to the same light intensity consuming less power from source.
The question is simple : can we do that placing tank circuit on primary of transformer while bulb is connected to secondary ?
YES/NO - has to be experimentally proved !
Firstly, for me, the ultimate test for any device "OU" is: energize the lamp and auto running at the same time.
Sophisticated tests do not interest me, because I do not have such equipment of tests. So...
This is for you to understand my "line of thinking".

As for the third video Transverter, explanation is very convincing in theory I think possible.
But see, this would be an attempt to solve my problem in high frequency setup.
But the control of the switches is very sophisticated for me.
In moment, I decided to go back the origins, after advice from bajac, and see where I failed.
Thinking of Figuera device as a "simple generator" is easy to see the current gain, but the gain in voltage happens in scale, better saying, associating multiple sets of coils to allow the gain in voltage.
For me, it's going to be difficulty build coil tuned in 120 Hz, central frequency of machine for 60 Hz on the way out, I think that's where I failed.
But i keep trying, HF and LF setup, let's see what happens.

Cheers