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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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marathonman

This is the wiring scheme i am referring to, the currant enters the front and exits out the back. just pay attention to spin direction while winding your coils.

Thanks for the pic Hanon with corrections.

bajac

I think that this post is in order.


An auto-transformer or a reactor with taps should not be used as a wired resistor because of its inherent inductance.


The wired resistors are built is such a way that its magnetic field cancels out by winding tuns in opposite directions. If you do not believe me, just measure the inductance of the wire wound resistors. I once was also wrong about it.


I felt that this clarification was important for the people that are serious about replicating Figuera's device. Otherwise, I would not even bother to answer to persons who call others S***t.


Bajac

marathonman

Mr Bajac, i would like to get your interpretation on part G knowing resistors were not around at that time. if you state anything about the picture i will bust out laughing so please if you will tell us your most intelligent answer on the construction of part G.???

the Figuera part G is NOT nor ever will be Resistors. Figuera used a Magnetic field to vary the currant through part G and i said nothing of wire resistors. resistors waist power through heat, magnetic field does NOT.

Figuersa used the reluctance of the winding's magnetic field on a core to vary the currant NOT Resistors so that means your still wrong.

Sorry about the S**T thing.

NRamaswami

Marathonman:

First I'm actually not able to understand your thought process on Part G.The disclosure in the Patent on Part G refers to resistor coils as indicated in the patent text and drawings. However I have some reason to believe that this 1908 Patent is some how edited and not genuine.

Before I proceed further I would advise you to avoid making any harsh statements and proof read what you write before posting it. No offensive comments please. Attacks on Indian Tech support looks actually extremely prejudiced racist to me. For Your Info, India strongly advocates free movement of skilled personel across all borders and advanced countries are strongly opposed to this for they thing Indian and Chinese workers will steal the jobs of their own nationals. India has one of the largest Scientific and Technological pool and hundreds of thousands of Engineeers and scientists come out every year. Unfortunately there is no funding for them to do research and getting funding for good projects is difficult. So the cream of the talent normally move to advanced countries and in US a very significant percentage of NASA scientists are those who came from india. With our poverty we have a peaceful democratic system, we have built all kinds of missiles, Nuclear weapons, space programs, satellites and satellite launch Rockets and we have a large and diverse country. I'm very proud to be an Indian and given the kind of violence in other places we live in a relatively peaceful place. We are an open society and all our faults are well published, criticised and we do not even consider it an interference in Internal affairs and listen to such critiques. And we are not sending a large mility to attack other countries and commit murders in the guise of protecting our national interests.

I'm not impressed with abusive comments against fellor forum posters and would most respectfully request you to stop this.

Now coming to Figuera my understanding is this.

In Dynamos we need to rotate the magnet. When the magnet starts rotating the coils placed on iron cores that receive the magnetic flux (increasing and decresing magnetic flux or time varying magnetic field) become opposite poles of the rotating magnetic core. So these opposite poles attract the magnet and prevent the movement of central magetic core. Therefore we need to apply mechanical energy to rotate the magnet against the breaking effect of opposite poles of induced magnets. This causes more input in and less output out. Transformeration of mechanical energy to electrical energy is deemed to happen.

Now Figuera has identified two things.

a. Rotating magnet sends out a weak field outside and it is this weak field that creates the opposite poles and the output in the Dynamo. So if the secondary is placed between two primaries secondary will be subjected to two forces at the same time. Both Centripetal and Centrifugal forces of the primary magnets will act on the secondary placed in the middle and this will efectively cancel out the Lenz law losses. Secondary will course will move the current in a direction opposite to the Primary but there appear to be a claimed Lenz law cancellation effect. Unfortunately this I have not witnessed. I was able to reach high COP figures and today we know how to make the output higher than the input. My understanding on Back EMF and Lenz law could be wrong.

Unfortunately I'm not able to continue due to lack of trained hands in this field. We have also conceptualized how the feedback mechaism worked in interrupted DC output. I have not done it and so will disclose it after repeat testing it. I do note that no one has shown a motionless self  sustaining generator as claimed by Figuera.

I will need to wait and watch what you post. But no personal attacks or inappropriate words. Please oblige.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     


Regards,

Ramaswami

hanon

Quote from: marathonman on May 02, 2016, 01:10:47 PM

the Figuera part G is NOT nor ever will be Resistors.


Sorry but I have to disagree in this. The 1908 patent describes a resistor system to vary the current intensity.  Maybe your design may be more efficient, but if resistors are described in the patent is because that implementation works. We should keep always in mind what is described by Figuera in the patent  and what is designed by the rest of us. Patent should be our Bible. Anyway IMHO the essence is moving the magnetic fields no matter how you do it.

Ramaswami, The patent is not altered. It was lost for more than a century in the patent archives. I had the luck of touching the original papers writen by Figuera in 1902 and 1908. Very old documents. Maybe you are now re-reading the patent and you are dicovering new things which does not fit with your previous interpretation. The fair play is to accept the design described in the patent as it is writen, not to state that the documents were altered. The luck we have in this case is that the patent was lost and passed unadvertedly for a century. The first time that it was scanned was the day that alpoma asked for that around 2010. Old patents from the spanish patent office were not scanned by default. They were just scanned by request. Those patent were not available in the web because they were not scanned. When requesting for scanning them you have to prepay by bank transfer a certain amount to the patent office in order that they do it and send it to you.