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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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pmgr

Cifta,

I am reposting an older post from myself here down below. Flux can be changed by either changing L or I (they only teach you the "I"-variation version in school, and in your case online). So current can certainly be changed by changing inductance.

Here is the old post:

MarathonMan is spot on.

EMF = d(flux)/dt = d(L*I)/dt which only simplifies to L*dI/dt in case L is constant (and this last simplification is the only thing we are taught in school).Adding or subtracting windings to an inductor changes L itself and thus L*dI/dt no longer applies. Instead d(L*I)/dt should be used.

And with that it is very simple to obtain an overunity system as long as the amount of energy that it costs to change L is less than the amount of excess energy you obtain with the system.

The more difficult part of this is to design a system that will do exactly this and which can be built in practice. The Figuera device is such a device.

PmgR
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lancaIV

Quote from: pmgr on July 31, 2018, 01:46:01 PM
Cifta,

I am reposting an older post from myself here down below. Flux can be changed by either changing L or I (they only teach you the "I"-variation version in school, and in your case online). So current can certainly be changed by changing inductance.

Here is the old post:

MarathonMan is spot on.

EMF = d(flux)/dt = d(L*I)/dt which only simplifies to L*dI/dt in case L is constant (and this last simplification is the only thing we are taught in school).Adding or subtracting windings to an inductor changes L itself and thus L*dI/dt no longer applies. Instead d(L*I)/dt should be used.

And with that it is very simple to obtain an overunity system as long as the amount of energy that it costs to change L is less than the amount of excess energy you obtain with the system.

The more difficult part of this is to design a system that will do exactly this and which can be built in practice. The Figuera device is such a device.

PmgR
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There is a special expression which plays an important rule :                 
                                                     Wattless current             
      Reference : Timor Kemeny rexresearch                                       and Dr. Pavel Imris             

       To understand this kind of technology there is the need to study                   the Lord Kelvin spring-condensator analogon  related RT- superconductor

                  and to accept that our conventional calculators are not "New Physics"-World normated :                 
                       the use from a divisor 0 gives normally an " syntax error " answer but in a           
             ART and SRT world the 0 is the xyz-geometric body tensor center, origami-arithmetics

              How release an arithmetical impossibility when it is physically possible and usefull       
           This EE-formula, used daybyday by myriads of engineers and technicians,
over the time        by the several systematic changes wrong interpreted or only not conditionized as shown :                                                                 constant or variant                       
                                 EMF under scalar and vector rule applying, honoring cosinus,sinus and tangente

forest

Cifta is NOT ME !
Anyway I believe it will work based on self inductance of coil but in fact the self-inductance is contrary to the amount of flux switched because the larger self-inductance the larger the amount of turns required which makes a coil with too many ohms. To solve that Tesla used high voltage but hv is rather not usable if you start to catch the OU. Of course if you make a coil with very long wire an very thick one it will work both for current flow and for controlling self-inductance. For relatively low voltages we have to stick to very high frequencies to see the result of tiny change in inductance when you jump one turn of coil... imho

marathonman

Mr Forest,
I certainly was not referring to you and i do apologize  as you took it that way.
I was referring Cifta to Forest Gump in the movie.

as for the ohms, the original replicator used 3x5 millimeter wire for his alternator core at around 80 to 100 winds so still very little ohms. with low resistance that equates to a very efficient Inductor as what Figuera did.
as for the frequencies, Figuera was in Barcelona Spain so i am guessing 50 HZ which is 3,000 RPM brush.

Thanks PMGR, they just don't get it do they, changing Inductance over time causing current reduction.(continuously)

Regards,
Marathonman

citfta

Quote from: pmgr on July 31, 2018, 01:46:01 PM
Cifta,

I am reposting an older post from myself here down below. Flux can be changed by either changing L or I (they only teach you the "I"-variation version in school, and in your case online). So current can certainly be changed by changing inductance.

Here is the old post:

MarathonMan is spot on.

EMF = d(flux)/dt = d(L*I)/dt which only simplifies to L*dI/dt in case L is constant (and this last simplification is the only thing we are taught in school).Adding or subtracting windings to an inductor changes L itself and thus L*dI/dt no longer applies. Instead d(L*I)/dt should be used.

And with that it is very simple to obtain an overunity system as long as the amount of energy that it costs to change L is less than the amount of excess energy you obtain with the system.

The more difficult part of this is to design a system that will do exactly this and which can be built in practice. The Figuera device is such a device.

PmgR
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PMGR,

I think you missed the whole point of my post.  Of course you can change flux by changing the number of turns of a coil.  I never said you couldn't.  What I see as foolishness is believing that changing the flux will have any effect on a DIRECT CURRENT.  If you know of a way to control DC current by changing the flux then please feel free to explain that.  Once the voltage stabilizes the only thing that will change the DC current is a change in the resistance of the circuit NOT the inductance as inductive reactance can't even be calculated if the current is DC.

Respectfully,Carroll