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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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seaad

MM I understood about that far way back when Hanon where "on line ". Thats why I sent that Video again in April 2018. And I'm still interested to see a measured  test with a real Variac.

citfta: I'm agree to your first and second sentence but not the last. [if you stop moving the knob only resistace is involved]
Inductance and some transformer effect is certainly involved. Just look at the video and see when Hannon is moving the knob partsly off a full rash.
See my second quote about the delay and my question of making an "amplification" test.

Regards Arne

DreamThinkBuild

Here's just a quick digital version. A switch is turned on sequentially(non-contiguous) to simulate the brush moving.
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marathonman

[if you stop moving the knob only resistance is involved]
Absolutely correct and the fact that Induction will cease just like a standard Inductor and full current flow will resume. so to avoid this and have on going Induction there has to be a moving contact that is adding and subtracting loops that magnetically link to that side of the circuit.
so in doing this the magnetic field is either getting stronger or weaker all the time causing Induction to take place that opposes the original current flow.
Thus changing the magnetic flux to current ratio on a steady basis.
it's just that simple folks.

DreamThinkBuild; I don't see that circuit working with the Figuera device. at each transition Inductance will cease as the pressure between the primaries can not be maintained nor can the potential be stored or released properly. good luck just the same.

Regards,
Marathonman

marathonman

A standard Generator;

As the requirements for larger scale power generation increased, a new limitation rose: the magnetic fields available from permanent magnets. Diverting a small amount of the power generated by the generator to an electromagnetic field coil allowed the generator to produce substantially more power. This concept was dubbed self-excitation.

The field coils are connected in series or parallel with the armature winding. When the generator first starts to turn, the small amount of remanent magnetism present in the iron core provides a magnetic field to get it started, generating a small current in the armature. This flows through the field coils, creating a larger magnetic field which generates a larger armature current. This "bootstrap" process continues until the magnetic field in the core levels off due to saturation and the generator reaches a steady state power output.

as you can see the residual magnetization left in the field coils is already polarized ie. a North Field and a South Field thus can immediately start producing power and as it says a SMALL amount of it's output is used to further excite the field coils until the Generator is producing more power than the field coils and the load combined. this power used to excite the field coils is RIDICULOUSLY small compared to it's output and once the field is up to running conditions the power used to maintain the fields is the I2R losses according to Sparky Sweet.
In the Figuera device we have the EXACT same thing happening except the fact that the Flashing (polarization) has to take place every time it is started. once the field coils and part G's fields are up to running conditions the power to maintain the field magnets are reduced to that of just the I2R losses just like a standard generator.

since a standard generator uses two fields (N & S) and rotates through them from low high low of the North then low high low of the South in the Figuera device we need some way to get the same conditions in the field coils and that is where part G comes into play.
by using self inductance of the coils on the core of part G we get reverse induced voltage to counter act the incoming currant thus reducing the currant flow through the field coils allowing us to shift the fields of the field coils back and fourth. with the North North opposing fields in part G at the positive brush Figuera was able to keep both side or the inductor independent while keeping each side in complete unison. as the brush rotated winding loops were added or subtracted magnetically linking or unlinking to the circuit which allowed each side of the brush to increase or decrease the currant flow through the primary field coils thus sweeping the fields back and fourth over the secondary.

Regards,
Marathonman

lancaIV

Hello Marathonman,your generator electro-magnetical self-excitating arrangement (feedback) is the reazon why for the machine with electricity producing effect an EE pioneer named Mister Siemens baptizised this machine  also as "dynamo" and " fiat lux: Lichtmaschine" !
for example often used for bicycle  light/electricity generating machines
The "part G" what you explain is for me exactly the function what a " time or pulse or function"-generator
today does as energy field controler or physical " Laplace Operator" of modern motors or generator                        often called  as electric machine "soft driver"( f .e. also  N.A.S.A., Engineer Nola invention)

Literature about electro-magnet power consume per mmf- force unit (Newton as unit term,  ancient Gauss and Oersted)DE19706659 Electromagnet with an embeded battery and coil.
Inventor: Hans-Joachim Gromm

COUPLING with periodically on/off switch/generator device possible

Question :
Total real c.o.p. efficiencies from electric motors and generators in the twenties from the last century ?Not physics theoretical, not somewhere(EE laboratory, hobby engineer) finded optimized prototypes 
but the real used - today as artefact to find in museums-
on or off grid working conventional electric machine !!! ?
60% or 50% or 40% or 30% or 20% or which input/output relativity number in per-centage ?
Which  is today the real c.o.p. efficiency from an conventional electro-magnetical sub-1kVA or 1kW range electric Alternating Current generator or Alternating Current motor away from their nominal peak efficiency ?
             Fixed kinetical 3000 RPM/potential 50Hz-cycles grid parity
100% full nominal load: 50 % up to 75% c.o.p. ( WEG/EFACEC catalog numbers)
Then 75% potential capacity used to nominal load
to 50%/ half load to 100% nominal load
to 25%/ quarter load to nominal 100% nominal load efficiency ?
The actual worldwide on grid electric machine c.o.p. can be estimated to have a 20% efficiency performancecaused by over-powered fixed RPM( grid Hz parity) machine combination related to the physical comercial/ industrial/ private household function and work process energy needs
Solution: variable speed drive
Accomplished the electric net system resistance losts and the power plant transformation efficiency the energetic system is totally a sub-10% performer = 90% potential energy destroyer not user
EE performance calculation fiasko

Since the Eigthees there is a scientifical and ecological "Faktor 10" movement and associated a "2KWH per capita/ day" organisation
"Future vision" : "Re-Engineering" work in progress : per capita consume monitoring and personal oeco-Audit                            Actual  7,6 Billion habitants each one his personal  "Energiepass"             

               you consume .....          you shall consume .....       Counteract penal warning/ compensation
shall : have to, must