Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[ourbobby]

Hi marathonman,
                         I get what has been explained over the past several years. I think I understand the notion of the AC sweep through the magnetic cores, be they external or internal. This is all very clever electronics manipulation, which I do not think Figuera had as his guiding principle. I think I have seen the 20kv mentioned three times on the other forum. Which might actually only be 15Kw or 20 HP. A figure mentioned by Buforn. The only way I can clearly see that output figure being replicated is with the addition of some special circuitry. Now! Did Figuera have this knowledge? In Tesla's opinion YES, although this opinion was based upon information that he had not seen, only relayed to him regarding the outcome of Figuera's running.and commentary. There is the 1902 newspaper article which I am sure you are familiar with. Also, I cannot find when the statement by Tesla was made regarding the suitability of the Canaries. Therefore, to my mind, again we are back at seeking to relate Figuera to the Aetheric electricity, and not amplification without this input. Did the continuum G include some variation on the popular Influence Machine of the day? Personally, I am thinking Figuera has merged two sequences into one. Using the system you are working with and with the addition of a method that assists with the amplification of the output. Part of my argument for this is the double whammy pulse at the terminals of the continuum G rotation. The straight direct connection serves another node not shown in the patent or its description.


I m going to leave it there. Until I have the working model all bets are off! I shall decarbonise my cores this weekend. Have to dig the kiln out from the back of the garage behind a lot of building materials. The actual process only takes a few hours. Heat up, cool down!


Regards


Dwane

[marathonman]

 "I get what has been explained over the past several years. I think I understand the notion of the AC sweep through the magnetic cores, be they external or internal."

NOPE, ! it is DC with Frequency because of the moving brush which will then be inductive reactance initiated by inductance not current change.
Regards,
Marathonman

[ourbobby]

Hi there marathonman,
                                  I think that is what I meant, a modulated DC voltage and current.


Am looking at the turns ratio issue. Ampere turns! I have seen many answers to this question, but, nothing definitive regarding "Saturation" and actually calculating the flux gradient for ampere turns. From my perspective V/R is the first item on the agenda. I don't ever seem to see this. the ampere turns can only be considered once the current and voltage are defined. Maybe this is hidden in the H force. For the Figuera generator, we are talking multiple coils, therefore do we calculate for one N set of coils and then copy this calculation for the S set of coils? And, of course, if one wants to set up say just a couple of coils to test certain parameters, being smaller coils in the overall scheme of things demands a set of indivieual coils that have no relation to the big pictur. Lots of work here!


Regards


ourbobbby

[ourbobby]

Hi marathonman,
                         Looks like my previous post was accepted. Could not connect properly yesterday1

               I suppose what I should have said is what you stated. Modulated DC. Just didn't put my finger on it!


Trying to get a handle on the ampere turns calculation. It seems to me that before any coil calculations can start, three things must be known. Voltage , current and coil dimension. In Figuera's case, a fourth pops up, number of series parallel coils. This would ultimately affect the G continuum. Adjusting R will automatically adjust the current!! Increasing V will increase I and either saturate the coils or turn the device into a radiant heater. All in all, a slightly complex issue that requires fixed parameters for stable operation. The outcome of which is this. All changes to voltage or current movements must occur within the G continuum, and not at the exciter coils!


Thus while I study B H curves I find all too often generic information. However, for Soft Iron there are a couple of established parameters. 3000 ampere turns per meter of core will give a saturation point at a permability of 600. Beyond 600, current is wasted for further flux development. Steel will go to 1.5T, however, I think the downside for steel is one of remanence. Ok for permannet magnet.


Lots of thinking going on. Is it leading me in the correct direction?


regards


ourbobby

[marathonman]

I am curious as to where or rather why you keep bringing up G continuum. the continuum was my thread on that sorry site i really don't want to talk about. the part you are referring in the patent is part G which is an active Inductor.
Leave R out of the equation as much as possible because R waste power in the form of heat NON Recoverable.   wind the electromagnets to respond as fast as they can to the current change as part G controls the current flow through a change in inductance. the change of magnetic flux to current ratio with the rotation of the brush giving it frequency which will then be inductive reactance.
it can then be calculated by 2 x Pi x hertz x henries,  then divide that ohms plus your primaries ohms added into your voltage which will then give you your amperage through your sets.
remember part G controls the current flow NOT the primaries. and yes all the parameters you discussed need to be accounted for while minimizing R.
Regards,
Marathonman