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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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IMIGHTKNOW

Ha,ha a misinterpretation of what I was trying to convey. I wasn't saying I thought it was resistors as I have known from the time I picked up the patent and a little discussion from you know who not on this site that resistors are no where to be found. I was referring to inductance or inductor as I wrote.

I do like your proposal, not completely convinced but intrigued for sure. I am convinced that the reduced inductances from the reducing side off set the rising side and just wonder if it can be done as you say without an inductor controller.

At first I thought it had a relation to J L Naudin's work with the delayed Lenz effect. After some careful observations I concluded not because the delay factor resided at the edge of the projected field capabilities of the coil/core. The inverse square law popped into mind so I measured the core and I was right, the delayed effect is right at the abilities of the magnetic field to project.

This of course was ruled out because the Figuera primaries are twice as big as the secondary projecting a field far past the secondary to account for the reduction of the field to get the sweeping action across the secondary while maintaining compression.

I am not to sure what vid you are taking about where Hanon show physical movement. The one on his site and the graph that was posted are one and the same reactions. It is just the graph has a lot more information to present.

PS. OUR forum has a lot if great info.

floodrod

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on April 01, 2023, 02:07:09 PM
An inductor has large amounts of flux available to control current flow yet can be made variable through the use of a rotating brush.

Inductors also cause the current to lag voltage.  Will 1 electromagnet fire off out-of-phase than the other if we use inductors as resistors? Tonight I will test if using inductors as the resistance causes the 2 electromagnets to project their magnetic field out-of-phase  or not..

What became clear to me is Clemente and Telsa alike were both basically simulating a sinewave to cause a change in direction without changing the direction of incoming current.  If we change the direction of a magnetic field without changing incoming current direction, then we get the induced coil to produce a magnetic field that assist us instead of opposes us.


floodrod

Ok so I compared 2 setups..  One with resistors as the resistance..  And one with Inductors as the resistance..  And from what I see, I am leaning towards the resistors..

The inductors cause reactance, which have high impedance when the current first enters, then the impedance diminishes, causing your output wave to be spikey and non-uniform.  It barely resembles a sine-wave.  I don't like it.. The resistors (on the other hand) are steady and form a much cleaner wave where you can actually see one side growing as the other shrinking in the wave. 

So to clarify what we are seeing--  We are creating 2 sinewaves which are 180 degree out of phase from each other.  But the astounding part is, this method allows you to create these waves with positive only and without ever changing the direction the input current is entering the coils.  This statement is the gist of the whole concept and why now I believe this method is real.

Attached is a pic of the output from my mechanical 16 pole commutator and using 7 standard 8 ohm resistors. I think 8 ohms each resistor is too high of a value.  I need to tweak the resistor values and work the sinewave a little nicer. 


IMIGHTKNOW

 :o Brain storm, There is no resistors in the figuera device and I guess the rotating brush is not needed either so forget about that also. Maybe we could use plastic for a core also. ;D ;) I bet it would look pretty though. ;D

Well that's enough for me, I thought I could get more insight here but looks were deceiving. Our group of five in our neighborhood formed to build this and basically came for what we needed which was Doug1 posts. Of course we vid chat with mm, nice guy shared everything and his electronic board is perfect.

Good day!

citfta

to IMIGHTNKNOW,  you are correct there were NO resistors in the Figuera device.  What untrained people don't understand is that any time you are dealing with inductors you are dealing with a circuit that has resonance.   If you try to drive that circuit without using the right frequency then you will get distortion and low efficiency.  Most of us older guys have quit commenting on this forum because there are several younger guys on here that already know everything because they have watched some YouTube videos.  i was even told that my comments weren't welcome.  So be it.  They will someday understand (maybe) that they didn't really know as much as they thought.


Respectfully,
Carroll


PS:  My own tests have shown that inductors can be used to control current flow.  Magnetic amplifiers do it all the time.  And my work on the Figuera device also convinced me that he very likely had a working device that used inductors.