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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Farmhand

Quote from: forest on March 09, 2014, 06:59:57 AM
NRamaswami

I completely agree with you on that topic. Someone need a fresh look of what is happening to realize that rotation of Earth cannot be a passive action due to some starting point in very ancient times. Energy must be supplied continously to rotate such a mass and there is a big chance it is not gravity source. Interactions between planets should very fast stop or disturb that constant rotation if it is passive. Somebody should compute the total energy required for Earth to rotate as today, but that require detailed knowledge of internal structure of Earrth. Very rough computation shows incredible billions of joules per single man on Earth. Drop it to like 1MW per man and I think we could be in safe margin. Except who need 1MW ?  :o
To summarise : constant rotation prove active character of force, small disturbances may indicate reaction to other planets disturbances; also if somebody could find an space object (planet, start etc) which do not rotate and yet has strong gravitation that would be another proof.

But everything in the Universe is in motion, nothing is motionless in the Universe, the sun moves the planets move everything moves nothing stays in one place, even if we put a coffee mug on the table it is travelling at tremendous speed right along side us. In the entire Universe there are no losses, everything is contained in the Universe of all that is.

All energy in the Universe is being transformed and transferred/transmitted constantly.

Can anyone name one thing or body or mass that is completely motionless ? Everything moves continuously. The brain of a human trying to understand the vastness of the cosmos and its entire working mechanisms over eternity is a futile effort.

Yes electrons orbit in atoms seemingly forever so do planets and galaxies also move seemingly forever, but our concept of passing events is minute compared to the eternity of the universe.

The energy dissipated by the Earths rotation may well simply be transferred to another space body and the energy some other space body dissipates is probably transferred to Earth, these interactions would be so complex and dynamic that they defy study.

How do we study a constantly changing scenario.

Is the Earth and other planets in our solar system slowing in axial rotation but the entire solar system increasing in speed through the galaxy ?

Who knows.

Bottom line is nothing in the Universe is standing still in space.

If we could theoretically create a Universe in a box (a closed system) theoretically no energy could escape or enter the box but the box is already teeming with moving bodies in an orderly fashion how would movement ever stop, no heat can escape no energy of any kind can escape, how could the energy of the interior of the box decrease or increase ?
It might turn chaotic then return to some different type of order, but everything is still in the box and nothing is added energy included.

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Humankind will be extinct for billions of years and everything in the universe will still be moving around as it pleases.

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marathonman

Quote from: dieter on March 09, 2014, 06:59:44 PM
Marathonman, I was reading this patent, 27D. I am not sure if I understand this "Lenz-less" thing right. The counterforce to induction is the Lorentz force, is this what the patent is about? If so, why is there no Lorentz force?
Lenz's law states that the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux or to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.
If you look at the picture the three magnetic lines of force cancell each other out and will not act in a negative way and these forces will not effect the primary due to gap between primary core and secondary core.  if i am not mistaken one can wire secondary so that induction is cancelled or very much minimized. Bifiler if i am not mistaken.

the Lorentz force is the combination of electric and magnetic force on a point charge due to electromagnetic fields. If a particle of charge q moves with velocity v in the presence of an electric field E and a magnetic field B, then it will experience a force. 
we are not to concern our selves with this law is far as i am aware.

NRamaswami

Gyula:

Thank you so much for your very detailed post. I'm grateful and obliged. Should have taken a lot of time for you to compose the answer that is very informative and very accurate. I do not have a guass meter but in my experiments I find that the strength of the electromagnet keeps increasing.

I'm not able to understand what is  "common permeable, low reluctance material"

I can understand common as common core. Permeable is magnetisable material. What is low reluctance material. Can you please give me an example. Is soft iron a low reluctance material? Is steel a low reluctance material? Is zinc coated iron a low reluctance material. Will Zinc coated iron reduce magnetism and inductance because it reduces eddy currents.

I have studied Charles Flynns patent last year and that Tom Bearden's MEG would infringe this patent and this is why Tom Bearden is not coming up with MEG is some thing that I thought.

Am I right in this statement theoretically..Is the frequency of the secondary of a transformer is increased than the primary, the transformer should then act as a generator? Please advise. Let us ignore whether it is possible or otherwise.   

Freehand:

You simply answered a most controversial question without realizing it.

Nothing in the earth is an isolated system. You need to consider the entire universe to take it as an isolated system. Therefore applying law of conservation of energy which is a theory formulated when the present levels of scientific knowledge were not there and refusing patents on that basis is not correct.

The systems that require higher input than output are based on their particular design. It is therefore entirely possible to design a system that avoids this problem. Since every man made object is subject to wear and tear such a system will not be a perpetual motion machine but can be more than 100% efficient. The systems that we currently use are less than 100% efficient because of their design characterestics.

Also the Van Allen Radiation belts, outer and inner belts act to reduce the cosmic radition that comes to the earth and then it is further filtered away by nature through the atmosphere. I have read Don Smiths statements that by tapping the energy of these belts an inexhustible supply can be made. I do not think it is necessary. If we just make a secondary of a transformer to have a higher frequency than the primary, then all the transformers in the world would become generators on their own and would become super efficient. I think it is doable easily..This is just my opinion and I may or may not be correct given my lack of knowledge in this domain.

marathonman

NRamaswami
"Also the Van Allen Radiation belts, outer and inner belts act to reduce the cosmic radiation that comes to the earth and then it is further filtered away by nature through the atmosphere" 
I mean no Disrespect but this is a false statement as the radiation you are referring to is at a certain frequency. when it collides with Van Allen Radiation belts it is reduced and particles and such in our atmosphere lower the frequency even further and by the time it hits our planet it has been lowered to the point that it is not harmful. this is what react in our earth core to keep it hot and what is fueling our sun....not nuclear fusion.
the earth is continually rotating because a rotating object will continue to rotate unless some external forces act upon it to oppose it.plus it might be possible that the Lorentz force is at play causing the rotation.

Gravity has been proven to be a push not a pull. when you are in space, gravity  "from radiation" acts upon you from all angles that is why you are stationary. when you get close to a large body ie...." Earth" the radiation is slowed down slightly "lower frequency" from our atmosphere and the Earth itself so that the force applied upon you is less then coming from the outer space side so you are PUSHED into the earth giving the appearance of Earth having Gravity. this has been proven many many times.

NRamaswami

Hi Marathonman:

Let us accept it. I'm a Lawyer and am not an Engineer nor a scientist. But after reading your statement and my statement I'm not able to understand what is the difference. Your statement indicates that these belts absord high frequency material, convert them to low frequency and their frequency is continuously brought down so that when the reach the earth they are harmless. My statement was that they protect the earth ( from a layman's point of view). But it appears that our knowledge on all these subjects is very low and we have a lot to learn. Regarding what fuels the Sun I have no knowledge on this and really cannot comment. Whether the earth pulls or space pushes us towards the earth the effect is one and the same. A rotating body will continue to rotate unless it has some force acting upon it to block it is against what I can understand. Just as you say the Earth is continuously bombarded by particles from space all the time. Then they must cause friction and some must support and some must oppose. So it is not as if there is no force is needed to keep the Earth rotating. It rotates not only around itself but also rotates around the Sun promptly every year.. There are other planets that do the same so there are bound to be forces acting supporting or against such rotation.

Let me know your insight that a secondary of a transformer having a higher frequency than primary is bound to act like a generator..You have not commented on it..