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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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marathonman


marathonman

Quote from: Doug1 on March 10, 2014, 12:57:21 PM
I think the first coil on the core is a split coil center tap making up the two opposing primaries and the outer one is the pick up or induced coil. Which would need a thicker wire to handle voltage and current.Not sure if all that activity could work well on a single core.The source would have to be kept very low. One could hope that what applies to dc resistance heating compared to ac would also apply in a core. Then having the fields push back and forth against each other would sort of be like a rotating or alternating field even though the electromagnets are facing same poles to each other. Power is transferred as a alternating event with very short distances of movement in ac ,the potential becomes a rigid connection between the source of movement and the end use in a mains line.Maybe the same thought can work with magnetic fields. I haven't read the pdf yet. I have some time now that the electric company drove a bush hog all over the exposed water line I was back filling.
Gonna be one of those days.
Doug;
is this what you were talking about here.

marathonman

Quote from: SolarLab on March 12, 2014, 02:19:57 PM
Hi Fellows,

This only takes a few minutes and you may find it instructional.

Go to this web page, start the application and perform the following.

http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/faradays-law

- select "Run Now!" [should open a new browser tab];

Try this: (use the pernament magnet to simulate electromagnet)
     {select: 1 Coil; Show field lines; Flip magnet to "N" faces left - consider this our Reference Point}
     {Note: if the Java Script stops responding - just reload the page}

   - move the magnet to a point where the magnet face touches the second Left most coil winding;
      (the vertical legs of the "N" are obstructed by the second right and final right coil windings)
   - use "Flip magnet" a few times and observe the meter (just to get feel for the orientation);
   - set to the Reference Point (N pole inside the coil);
   - move the magnet Right (about 1 coil winding distance) and observe the meter movement (should peg "-" negative)
      {amplitude depends on how rapid [dV/dt} the magnet was moved};
   - continue to move the magnet to the Left in 1 coil winding increments (simulating commutator steps), observe meter;
   - when the magnet is over the voltage meter "Flip magnet" This we will call the Terminal Point;
   - now step the magnet Left towards the coil in 1 coil winding increments (observe the meter);
   - when the magent reaches the Reference Point - "Flip magnet";
   - repeat this motion while flipping the magnet at the Reference and Terminal Points.

Interesting, at worst!    I may have screwed up in my sequencing but you'll get the idea.

Other demo's that may be useful:

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/electromag/index.html

- review the "interactive java tutorials for:
    - magnetic field lines
    - Faraday's 2nd Experiment {note that E = -(DF/Dt)
    - Lenz's Law [this is a very good one]
    - Attraction and Repulsion By Magnetic Poles

Actually most of the interactive java applets are instructive (some are in development and don't work well yet).

Solarlab
Oh man i can't thank you enough.  playing with that magnet allowed me to visualize what was going on in Figueras core. i took the magnet and put the Bloch wall in the middle of the core then hit the flip button reversing the polarity and the whole page lit up from the light bulb, pegging the meter to the max..... well actually slamming it from peak to peak every time,  so this is what the core is suppose to do.
so i then went back to the paint program and put what i think is happening in the core of Figueras. no wonder every one thought i was wacked in the head.......SORRY EVERY ONE!
This is why he used the split core.... to lower the amperage draw on the primaries as they do not have to reverse polarity only the secondary.  man o man this Figueras sure was an very impressive person.   
can someone please tell me if this is right, is this what is happening.

hanon

Hi,

About the picture in the post #991 by Marathonman with the 2 induced coils I think it is wrong. Buforn just stated that a second induced coil can be installed in the same core in order to generate the electricity required to excite the device. The other induced coil coulb be then used entirely for any other electrical output

I just quote from the patent 57955 by Buforn:

"Another advantage is that inside the induced electromagnets we can put
another small size induced electromagnet with equal or greater length than the
large induced core. In these second group of induced coils an electric current will be
produced, as in the first group of induced coils, and this produced current will be sufficient
for the consumption in the continuous excitation of the machine, being completely free
all the other current produced by the first induced electromagnets in order to use it in all
purposes you want."


Please keep as close as possible to the patent description!!. The missing piece should be anything not described, but the described things should be taken as the patent says.

My only doubt is why did he state that "the small induced coil must have a length equal or greater than the large induced core"  ??  Any ideas ??

It seems an unnecessary explanation. I do not know why he explicity wrote that sentence...

Regards

Doug1

Marathon
Split primary the core could go either way depending on the amount of field to be stored in the gap between the windings.
  Im partial to 1 mm wire on the primaries. The number of conductors making up the primaries compared to the turns ratio of the bundles and the total number of the turns counting each wire turn. For argument sake lets say im going to want to push or be able to push 3000 watts on the primary coils in dc to start them. By looking at a wire chart for welding cable the type made of lots of small diameter wire 3/00 will handle 300 amps dc easily. Taking the same number of conductors with magnet wire you get a bundle. Hard to work with so make the group of smaller bundles. Windiing is tricky and slow. Keep the length of wire short because the reisistance is controlled by the controller not the length of the wires. Even if you never crank the magnets up to full power with the starting source you have to be able to handle the intended loads plus start up surges for motor type loads.
   You have to determine your own requirements of output to figure out how many units to build and how big you need each set to be even if your making a useless table top toy. 44kw takes a few sets and a lot of spare time to put together.
  Kw converts to hp devided by frequency converted to ft lbs. Ft lbs to magnet lift foot pounds. The size you can work with and still be happy and sane can be added together to reach the final numbers. Cost is another problem. Its not much different from building a standard generator from scratch. I doubt very many people will want to do all this work. Except for a few who just like to tinker.
  Did I hear someone mention a decade box, do I know you from someplace? I would rather have a million turns of fine wire then a few of thicker for primaries. I can arrange the fine wire with more options in the sense of what makes a stronger magnet.