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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Qwert

Quote from: forest on June 26, 2013, 06:33:57 PM
I think we need a scan of ORIGINAL Tesla article "The problem of increasing human energy" from 1900 and especially page 200 and further...

Probably you don't need the original article. You need this (further explanation of the same author):

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-m4PqHpBHo-OHYzNmZBdU91bkk/edit?usp=sharing

Pic of Teneriffe (Peak of Teneriffe) a peak of a mountain in Teneriffe.

forest

Quote from: Qwert on June 27, 2013, 01:57:49 AM
Probably you don't need the original article. You need this (further explanation of the same author):

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-m4PqHpBHo-OHYzNmZBdU91bkk/edit?usp=sharing

Pic of Teneriffe (Peak of Teneriffe) a peak of a mountain in Teneriffe.


I'm not sure Qwert  ???  Why would Tesla who was pedantic make such a mistake ? Pic instead of Peak ? Written in capital ? Tenerife with one "f" ?  It's interesting because there is Pic a Tenerife in Canada and it is a mountain which I can assume ( a big assumption) was the place of experiment done by Tesla and his friends described in one article available on net. Ok, maybe it's too far but the mistake was indeed interesting

hanon

Quote from: forest on June 27, 2013, 05:32:33 AM
Tenerife with one "f" ?  It's interesting because there is Pic a Tenerife in Canada and it is a mountain which I can assume ( a big assumption) was the place of experiment done by Tesla and his friends described in one article available on net. Ok, maybe it's too far but the mistake was indeed interesting

Tenerife is the name of one of the Canary Island where Clemente Figuera lived in the time of his first patents in 1902. The peak in Tenerife Island, called Teide Peak, is the tallest mountain in Spain. I think Tesla was thinking that Figuera collected the energy from the medium using high altitutes, which is completely different to the method really used. I know that Tesla always lived in the some of the highest floors in the NY hotels searching for better conditions for some of his experiments during his last years.

I donĀ“t know if Tenerife is also the name of another peak in Canada where Tesla did some experiments. Can you provide any link to this info?

Regards


Qwert

Probably you are right, Forest: Pic a Tenerife is a mountain in the Newfoundland. But, this is mountain and that is mountain, who cares? Of course it makes significant difference if you gonna visit one of them.

hanon

Maybe it is simpler that what we think:

Patent from 1908: "so simple that vigilance can be overlooked"

Herald Tribune (June 1902): [Figuera] declares that the only extraordinary point about it is that is has taken so long to discover a simple scientific fact."  .... " the whole apparatus is so simple that a child could work it"

Canarian Newspaper (May 1902): "My invention is based on a simple principle, which is not worth the warm eulogies with which I am honored and distinguished,  I can not understand that anyone did not happen to do what I've been fortunate to achieve"

Interview in a canarian newspaper (June 1902): stating that the secret of his invention resembles the egg of Columbus.

If energy is not created, and it is just moved from one place to another, we may say that a conventional generator is just capturing energy from the surroundings and trasnsforming it into electric energy. Maybe what you need to do is just to imitate a conventional generator, but without moving the stator or rotor and only moving electric charges and magnetic fields, just try rotating the magnetic field, and try electrical load in the tests. Maybe, just with this approach,  it may capture as much electricity as any conventional generator.