Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[bajac]

Are you saying that you only used the sketch to write your paper?

Are you saying that you did not even read the text in the patent to write your paper?

This confirm my idea that your design has nothing in common with Figuera´s original ideas. You were looking for any kind of justification to used air-gaps to divert the Lenz effect, and then you saw the sketch from Figuera and you saw in it what you wanted to see.  You know this proverb that says that when someone has a hammer in his hands, all the thing he see are nails everywhere.

This is really a big damage to the efforts to replicate Figuera´s patent, the aim of this thread. Now everyone read your paper and sadly the are involved in a different design to the one included in the patent.

Everyone: Please read the original patent text. The rest are personal interpretations. Above we have the demostration...

Regards

It is true! I got the sketch from Boguslaw when he posted it on the energeticforum website. Couple of weeks after I published the paper, I got the text of the patent in Spanish and I did read it. I was satisfied because the patent only confirmed what I published. I had been able to understand the Figuera's device on the spot without the text because I was thinking of something very similar based on my research on the operation of standard transformers.

If you thinking that I was wrong on the paper, you are more than welcome to point me to the mistakes and will be very willing to accept them and make the corrections. What I do not accept are irresponsible general statements without providing any proofs of the accusations. I will give you an example of how a responsible and constructive criticism is made. For instance, when you said that Figuera's device generated two opposite signals is against Figuera's teachings. The patent says that when ones (coils) are full, the other ones are empty" meaning that when the magnitudes of the current flowing through a set of coils is maximum, the current on the other set is minimum or zero. This is clearly two signals being 90 degrees out of phase, THEY ARE NOT OPPOSITE!!! It is similar to the functions sine and cosine, whenever one is maximum (in either direction), the other one is zero or very close to zero.

On the other hand, I do not understand your explosive reaction. It is not on a professional level but on the emotional edge. If you are right in your attack, time will prove me wrong. There is no need to get excited or emotional about it. The purpose of this effort is not to prove that someone is correct and the other ones are not. The Goal is simply to replicate the Figuera's invention. You will do it your way, and I will do it my way. There is nothing wrong with it. We are fighting for the same Figuera's cause and not against each other! Only, jealousy, greed, and pride can really hurt our cause!

Bajac

[TruthHunter]

Actually, the voltage is not stepped. Remember that briefly two contacts are connecting. The resistance
has two parallel paths while both are connected, so the resulting wave will be a saw tooth.

Don't forget that the resistors were wound. They are mostly non-inductive, but like the Smith coil
may have effects.

There is a picture purporting to be the Hubbard coil that shows it with an 8 cylinder auto distributor.   
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm

Apparently, he used a similar switching mechanism.

[hanon]

Of course I will prove you are interpreting freely the 1908 patent.


Please quote any paragraph from the patent where Figuera states the need for air-gaps.


If you do not provide that quote (which BTW does not exist) I will take as proved that your design, while being genuine, does not have anything in common with Figuera´s ideas.


As you won´t be able to quote the patent, I will prove my point and I will quote a paragraph from that patent stating quite the contrary to your theory of ai gaps. I have read the patent tens of times. I will wait for your quote to post mine later.


I won´t go into personal criticisms. I am just here to speak about technical facts.   


BTW, Sine and Cosine are not maximun and minimum at the same time, as Figuera required. Revise your Maths. But please before look for that quote I mentioned above. Thanks

[bajac]

Of course I will prove you are interpreting freely the 1908 patent.

Please quote any paragraph from the patent where Figuera states the need for air-gaps.

If you do not provide that quote (which BTW does not exist) I will take as proved that your design, while being genuine, does not have anything in common with Figuera´s ideas.

As you won´t be able to quote the patent, I will prove my point and I will quote a paragraph from that patent stating quite the contrary to your theory of ai gaps. I have read the patent tens of times. I will wait for your quote to post mine later.


I won´t go into personal criticisms. I am just here to speak about technical facts.   


BTW, Sine and Cosine are not maximun and minimum at the same time, as Figuera required. Revise your Maths. But please before look for that quote I mentioned above. Thanks

BTW, I think now we are going into the right direction for a constructive discussion. Why do you think Figuera showed a separation between the S and Y cores and the N and Y cores? See attached sketch. The sketches are also part of the specification for a patent.

I have to agree with NR about Figuera's patents, They are very lousy! We are having all these problems because Figuera did not prepared a proper patent application and because the Spanish patent office accepted such application. In USA the Figuera's patent would have been rejected because it does not provide enough details for one with skill in the art to replicate the device.

Bajac

[RandyFL]

I enjoy boating... my friend has a fishing boat and we go out fishing every Monday morning...my  first boat was a sailboat I had to get rid of it because it was getting too expensive to keep. I enjoy sailing more than fishing but I get to go out on a boat every Monday...

My point is... some people look at the weather so much that they are scared to leave port...

All the best

PS as I have stated before... I asked Patrick what I should build and He stated the " Figuera "... I have learned how to build electronic devices and if Patrick and Bajac are wrong about this aspect of the Figuera ... at least they went sailing.