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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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NRamaswami

Quote from: forest on March 28, 2016, 12:46:52 PM
Why are you struggling so hard while the answer is given by Buforn ? 100V/1A gives 20kW output, the voltage is chosen as required by the amount of coils in series, amperage is chosen as required by the amount of copper
The problem is only huge ampere-turns

That is correct. But please do a small calculation on Iron Ns insulated copper wire costs and you know why we are struggling. Just calculate the amount of turns needed and the copper needed and the iron core needed to avoid over heating and you get the picture.
Essentially the problem is solved but it is high cost solution. There is no low cost solution here.
That is the problem. Buforn shows 6 to 8 Primary modules and the secondaties are to be organised as high amperage and lower voltage units which would have to be stepped up in voltage to be used.

But we need to get a minimum voltage out to cross all these hurdles and the cost of the core cost of insulated copper makes it a nightmare.

It is an expensive system. But a 20 KW generator is not cheap. Problem is it may well be the minimum size device with this method.

Regards

Ramaswami

forest

Quote from: NRamaswami on March 29, 2016, 12:05:37 PM
That is correct. But please do a small calculation on Iron Ns insulated copper wire costs and you know why we are struggling. Just calculate the amount of turns needed and the copper needed and the iron core needed to avoid over heating and you get the picture.
Essentially the problem is solved but it is high cost solution. There is no low cost solution here.
That is the problem. Buforn shows 6 to 8 Primary modules and the secondaties are to be organised as high amperage and lower voltage units which would have to be stepped up in voltage to be used.

But we need to get a minimum voltage out to cross all these hurdles and the cost of the core cost of insulated copper makes it a nightmare.

It is an expensive system. But a 20 KW generator is not cheap. Problem is it may well be the minimum size device with this method.

Regards

Ramaswami


Well...yes. In developing stage it is costly, but when ready the next prototype should be 10 times cheaper then solar panels, everybody can do it -  and that's the whole problem for some people.
Bussiness must change into something new, useful for everyone, world must change, people must change.
Really there is not much to say , it's all clear. Somebody more clever can easily compute the required magnetix flux for 20kW output at desired frequency, voltage etc. Then switch and get output.
The higher frequency the better - less material, higher output.

NRamaswami

Sir..

Increasing the frequency of primary..yes I have kind of sorted it out. But how do you reduce the frequency in secondary..

And if the secondary is going to provide 20 or 30 kilowatt as it seems how can you reduce the core size if we use a 200 amps carrying wire. Core has to meet the size requirements hhere to avoid saturation. How can you reduce the core size by increasing the frequency is not yet clear to me.
Even if it is so high frequency is said to heat up core and large core cannot be avoided even if we go to high frequency. Higher output with high frequency ..yes I have to agree but need to test but core size can be reduced is applicale only for small units. Not for large ones..
And I do not think every body can do this..Not easy to master and very confusing.
Otherwise so many would have done it by now..
I intend to make an attempt with 120 amp rated.coils but need to check what kind of core size and coils are needed yo reach about 115 volts..Let me try..As everybody points out you need at least three secondary coils to cross cop>1 situation and then we need to loop it back again and the system should continue to run..This will take some more effort..


forest

Quote from: NRamaswami on March 29, 2016, 03:21:32 PM
Sir..

Increasing the frequency of primary..yes I have kind of sorted it out. But how do you reduce the frequency in secondary..

And if the secondary is going to provide 20 or 30 kilowatt as it seems how can you reduce the core size if we use a 200 amps carrying wire. Core has to meet the size requirements hhere to avoid saturation. How can you reduce the core size by increasing the frequency is not yet clear to me.
Even if it is so high frequency is said to heat up core and large core cannot be avoided even if we go to high frequency. Higher output with high frequency ..yes I have to agree but need to test but core size can be reduced is applicale only for small units. Not for large ones..
And I do not think every body can do this..Not easy to master and very confusing.
Otherwise so many would have done it by now..
I intend to make an attempt with 120 amp rated.coils but need to check what kind of core size and coils are needed yo reach about 115 volts..Let me try..As everybody points out you need at least three secondary coils to cross cop>1 situation and then we need to loop it back again and the system should continue to run..This will take some more effort..


Sir, it's just the way we make things. If you want ordinary current then it will cost a lot because of lots of iron and wires (however there are ways to avoid it) , but you can always rectify high frequency and use commercial inverter 10kW of more. You just eliminated total solar panels with a cheap device, do you see dangers ? And every commercial inverter can be replaced by a rotary frequency converter if you wish. It all depends on what you need to do with currents. I for example want to heat my house very economically  and I will never surrender until I do this. Besides there are other methods like Tesla method of rising amperage of small signal ;-)